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'Soldier beheaded' in Woolwich machete attack: latest

One of the most obvious examples are the pre-WWII Germans who were led to believe that Jews were bad people. In today's world--amongst others--I'd say the the North Koreans are subjected and victimized by propaganda. So now that you understand, you can answer my 2 previous questions.

The Germans already believed that. Hitler just made it OK to act on that belief.:cool:
 
You think you do, but you do not.
After spending 7 trips and 4 years in the ME in multiple locations I think I have a pretty good understanding of your average Muslim, your average Arab, and after seeing some of the things they do, your average scumbag terrorist. You keep on operating under the pretense there is something more to 'understand'...meanwhile, here in the real world, we can see that the same types of people have been doing the same types of things in different countries for decades, targeting and slaughtering innocent men women and children...always with some excuse...err...'reason'.
 
After spending 7 trips and 4 years in the ME in multiple locations I think I have a pretty good understanding of your average Muslim, your average Arab, and after seeing some of the things they do, your average scumbag terrorist. You keep on operating under the pretense there is something more to 'understand'...meanwhile, here in the real world, we can see that the same types of people have been doing the same types of things in different countries for decades, targeting and slaughtering innocent men women and children...always with some excuse...err...'reason.

And their reasons, excuses, or victims, don't always involve Americans or Jews. Theirs hatreds are quite widespread and their terrorist activities have effected people on all continents, with the possible exception of Antarctica.
 
I just saw some footage of the attackers on Fox News and they look absolutely crazy with bloodied hands. They may say it's religious in nature but these guys belong in the nut house, forever.




At least forever.
 
And their reasons, excuses, or victims, don't always involve Americans or Jews. Theirs hatreds are quite widespread and their terrorist activities have effected people on all continents, with the possible exception of Antarctica.
Hell...they have hatred towards Muslims if you arent of the right sect for Allahs sake. Thats what is so ****ing ridiculous. People can watch these extremist ****heads killing each other, children, people in Chechnya, Indonesia, the Philippines, and everywhere else but then rush to trip over themselves to 'understand' how our foreign policy is what drives them.
 
Hell...they have hatred towards Muslims if you arent of the right sect for Allahs sake. Thats what is so ****ing ridiculous. People can watch these extremist ****heads killing each other, children, people in Chechnya, Indonesia, the Philippines, and everywhere else but then rush to trip over themselves to 'understand' how our foreign policy is what drives them.
Those who encourage overlooking international Islamic terrorism will not be looking for 'root causes' in Africa, Asia, Europe, etc. Instead they will look for these causes only in the United States and Israel, and then come up with dozens of reasons why terrorism can be justified.
 
By consistently spewing hateful things about certain people *cough-cough* Muslims/liberals/the poor, do you not think that her hateful influence (being on a national stage) could incite violence towards said people by members of her audience who are especially vulnerable?

as opposed to liberal pundits constantly spewing hateful things about Christians/conservatives/the rich?

p.s. If you tell me they don't, I'm gonna fill up this thread with quotes. Just letting you know.
 
Those who encourage overlooking international Islamic terrorism will not be looking for 'root causes' in Africa, Asia, Europe, etc. Instead they will look for these causes only in the United States and Israel, and then come up with dozens of reasons why terrorism can be justified.

Everyone here was so angry about the murder...mosque windows were smashed..arson attempts..

The simple thing that put it in perspective for me was a cleaner called ''Ali'' at work..He is a Muslim

He stopped me and said ''Wasn't that disgusting what those people did to that poor young man..I am so sorry!!''...

The people who did this want us to turn on each other..It ain't gonna happen!!
 
At least forever.

These guys were ''converts'' as they usually are..

Groomed by the best..too cowardly to do their own dirty work..

And usually have some sort of mental issue..
 
These guys were ''converts'' as they usually are..

Groomed by the best..too cowardly to do their own dirty work..

And usually have some sort of mental issue..

do you know who has been provoking these monsters wolfie ?
 
So when one of your family members rapes a kid, he is doing it in your family name because you all share the family name? Holy crap..your effort to wipe away the **** stain of Islamic fundamentalist terrorism by correlation is amazing. When you have to play "6 degrees from Kevin Bacon" to draw a connection to "Christian terrorism", maybe you ought to try a new tactic.

IRONY!

Newtown doesn't represent all Christians but for some bizarre, Alice in Wonderland reason, this man represents all Muslims?
 
do you know who has been provoking these monsters wolfie ?

Michael changed his name to Mujahid, which means “one who engages in jihad”, and started attending meetings of Al Muhajiroun, an Islamist group that was banned after the 7/7 attacks in London.

Anjem Choudary..

Choudary is a vocal critic of the UK's involvement in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and has praised the terrorists involved in the September 11 attacks, and the 7 July 2005 London bombings. He believes in the implementation of Sharia law throughout the UK...
 
Those who encourage overlooking international Islamic terrorism will not be looking for 'root causes' in Africa, Asia, Europe, etc. Instead they will look for these causes only in the United States and Israel, and then come up with dozens of reasons why terrorism can be justified.

Those who encourage overlooking international terrorism by the United States will look to blame Iraq or Afghanistan or Libya or Iran and then come up with dozens of reasons why terrorism by the United States can be justified.
 
These guys were ''converts'' as they usually are..

Groomed by the best..too cowardly to do their own dirty work..

And usually have some sort of mental issue..

From what I have read, the guy in the youtube from the attack had dropped out of college awhile back and had witnessed a drug addict friend stabbed to death. The politics may very well be secondary to the mental issues in this case.
 
From what I have read, the guy in the youtube from the attack had dropped out of college awhile back and had witnessed a drug addict friend stabbed to death. The politics may very well be secondary to the mental issues in this case.

Yep..member of a gang Known as the ''Woolwich boys''

Then became a devout Christian..no father figure..apparently afraid of ''male rape'' with no foundation..
 
as opposed to liberal pundits constantly spewing hateful things about Christians/conservatives/the rich?

p.s. If you tell me they don't, I'm gonna fill up this thread with quotes. Just letting you know.

I fully realize that some of thm are equal opportunity haters.
 
Everyone here was so angry about the murder...mosque windows were smashed..arson attempts..

The simple thing that put it in perspective for me was a cleaner called ''Ali'' at work..He is a Muslim

He stopped me and said ''Wasn't that disgusting what those people did to that poor young man..I am so sorry!!''...

The people who did this want us to turn on each other..It ain't gonna happen!!

Where is "here"?

Perhaps you, Ali and a few liked minded folk should gather in a circle and sing spiritual sons of an Islamic nature and then, at the end, explain how Americans and Jews are to blame for all of this.
It ain't gonna happen!!
Right. It ain't gonna happen because there is still too much hatred gong on in the Muslim communities. Tell hem to cut it out and then there is a chance.
 
IRONY!

Newtown doesn't represent all Christians but for some bizarre, Alice in Wonderland reason, this man represents all Muslims?

You reacting as though 'this man' was an isolated incidence of Islamic violence. It is not. Islamic terrorism is happening every day and all over the world. This may have just been the first one you've heard of.
 
Where is "here"?

Perhaps you, Ali and a few liked minded folk should gather in a circle and sing spiritual sons of an Islamic nature and then, at the end, explain how Americans and Jews are to blame for all of this.

Right. It ain't gonna happen because there is still too much hatred gong on in the Muslim communities. Tell hem to cut it out and then there is a chance.

Here is England...should we just kill any old Muslims then??..

I hate fundamentalism as much as you..but I recognise that not ALL Muslims are out to get me....
 
IRONY!

Newtown doesn't represent all Christians but for some bizarre, Alice in Wonderland reason, this man represents all Muslims?
You can of course pioint to an instance where I suggested that fundamentalist extremists under the guise of Allah represent all Muslims. Or do YOU see Islamic Fundamentalist terrorist and equate them to all Muslims? And for the record (something you keep missing) Newton Conencticut had absolutley NOTHING to do with Christianity while the two scumbags that chopped off the guys head SPECIFICALLY did it in the name of their religion.
 
Here is England...should we just kill any old Muslims then??..

I hate fundamentalism as much as you..but I recognise that not ALL Muslims are out to get me....

If ol' boy had been totin' a pistol, he mighta wouldna got his head chopped off. Maybe Britons should be thinking along those lines, rather than acting as apologists for psycho savages.
 
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