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'Soldier beheaded' in Woolwich machete attack: latest

We can only hope he was dead before the machete assault began. I don't see how anybody can be confused by men swinging machetes hacking at someone. It sounds to me like they were looking for an excuse as to why they just stood there doing nothing.

I think when they were over him on the ground from a distance some people thought they were doing CPR. Regardless it was a very messed up situation and im sad people had to witness it at all.
 
Abso****inglutely! Understanding your 'enemy' goes a long long way and is much more effective than killing back.
"Understand" that your enemy is a collection of extremist fundamentalist ****s that think nothing of slaughtering innocent and unarmed men women and children in the glorious cause of Allah and Jihad. They are the same people that execute women for the crime of being raped and kill women for daring to teach their children how to read. Understand that your enemy isnt going to be assuaged by a few hugs and pats on the head. They arent 'reasonable' people and wont be negotiated with. But go ahead and try to be reasonable and caring and loving to them.
 
Naw they use guns to shoot up schools and kill children...

Do you have any proof that religion played into the Newtown shooting. If you don't then please stop lying.
 
why so potentially more people could have died? The attackers told all the men to stay away from the body which of course they did not knwoing if he was alive or dead. The police came and took care of them and no other innocents got hurt.

Now you have to deal with this Muslim scum. Someone should have shot and killed both of these men at the scene. Simple, no trial, no mess! Too bad you British have become such ******s you run from men with meat cleavers and kitchen knives. How sad!
 
Now you have to deal with this Muslim scum. Someone should have shot and killed both of these men at the scene. Simple, no trial, no mess! Too bad you British have become such ******s you run from men with meat cleavers and kitchen knives. How sad!

I didnt see anyone running. I just wish everyone could be a tough as internet posters like you.
 
Cut the hand off and it lives on to kill, cut the head off and it dies for eternity. KLALMZLMZ!!
 
I didnt see anyone running. I just wish everyone could be a tough as internet posters like you.

I'm not tough, just armed. I don't get into confrontations, I avoid them. However, if someone were going to attack me with a meat cleaver, I'd bet money on my 45 Auto over his blade every time.

Why does simply being able to protect myself seem so foreign to you?
 
I find the whining in this thread from the Muslim hating crowd rather hypocritical. After all if they were correct in their deluded beliefs that there is a war against Islam, on what grounds would they have to complain against the killing of a soldier as a legitimate military target? I can call this murder, but only because I recognize this as the act of two individuals who bear total personal responsibility for their actions, not a religious war.

This incident is precisely why the fools trying to egg on a religious conflict are so stupid, in addition to being immoral The moment you try and declare that you have the rationale to attack an entire religion, you are also justifying their attacks upon you.
 
I find the whining in this thread from the Muslim hating crowd rather hypocritical. After all if they were correct in their deluded beliefs that there is a war against Islam, on what grounds would they have to complain against the killing of a soldier as a legitimate military target?

BINGO! Although to be fair, nobody ever accused them of being rational individuals.
 
You seemed to have difficulty grasping the words and intent of what Libs have said... that we need to understand these idiots so we can alter our lives... so we can see what WE are doing wrong.

If by "we" you mean the often deceitful and self-evidently destructive policies enacted by our political elites....then yes, some self-reflection is in order.

It's not going to solve all the problems...but we can change what we do wrong, and that's a start.

And I'm not talking culturally...I'm talking about foreign policy.
 
I'm not tough, just armed. I don't get into confrontations, I avoid them. However, if someone were going to attack me with a meat cleaver, I'd bet money on my 45 Auto over his blade every time.

Why does simply being able to protect myself seem so foreign to you?


whatever mate im not getting into this with you, a guy was butchered in the street and this thread is about that and the people who carried how the attack. If you want to use this death to defend your gun rights then go start a thread in gun control.
 
The simple fact is that Radical Islam followers "claim" to follow Islam. However not all followers of Islam are radicals. Why the anti-Muslim crowd continues to blame ALL Muslims is beyond me.

Theses idiots were clearly radical and clearly deserve to die. However, to claim that we should not allow ANY Muslims into the US is just stupid blind ignorant hatred.
 
whatever mate im not getting into this with you, a guy was butchered in the street and this thread is about that and the people who carried how the attack. If you want to use this death to defend your gun rights then go start a thread in gun control.

If it were as simple as some of these nitwits think you'd expect the streets in American cities to be much safer. I'm actually surprised they don't shoot each other more often.
Too, anyone who thinks this is about religion probably thinks the 'troubles' in Ulster were about religion.
 
If by "we" you mean the often deceitful and self-evidently destructive policies enacted by our political elites....then yes, some self-reflection is in order.

It's not going to solve all the problems...but we can change what we do wrong, and that's a start.

And I'm not talking culturally...I'm talking about foreign policy.

This... "understand why they do it..." goes back more than 10-years.
It's moronic in the vein of how the Left frames it.
 
I don't know how injured he was after he was hit by the car but there were witnesses to the hacking that stood helplessly by. I wasn't there so I can't say for sure but I have to believe if I was there and saw two guys hacking someone to pieces with a machete and if I had a gun the hacking would have ended abruptly.

Agreed.
 
You know, when a a nut job goes off and starts shooting people it is usually ended when someone else shoots the shooter. Why are peaceful Muslims not taking down the crazy ones? Because if they were, the larger part of the community would probably not be demonized along with the minority. But that isn't happening, is it?

We hear gun owners impuned on this forum for not taking up arms since the argument is to have the ability to oust a corrupt government. It is a very small percentage of gun owners who commit mass shootings, and usually another gun owner (civilian, police or military) that takes them down. And yet we have half the country screaming that we need to get rid of the guns. So why then do the same people not want to outlaw Islam?

Because we don't have the Obama administration telling people they need to think that way.
 
The Obama Administration won't profile Muslim terrorists like this, but they will profile Christians, Jews and Conservatives

And veterans
 
In both the USA, Canada, and Western Europe, it really is a matter of time before the people start taking matters into their own hands. What these radicals don't understand is that some peaceful muslims are going to get the brunt of it.


Tim-
 
In both the USA, Canada, and Western Europe, it really is a matter of time before the people start taking matters into their own hands. What these radicals don't understand is that some peaceful muslims are going to get the brunt of it.


Tim-

And if people start attacking innocent Muslims than they deserve no better than these radical Muslims that attacked the soldier.

Radicalism doesn't excuse stupidity.
 
Do you have any proof that religion played into the Newtown shooting. If you don't then please stop lying.

Does it have to play a part for it to be terror?
 
I'm not tough, just armed. I don't get into confrontations, I avoid them. However, if someone were going to attack me with a meat cleaver, I'd bet money on my 45 Auto over his blade every time.

Why does simply being able to protect myself seem so foreign to you?

People who are too weak to defend themselves are intimidated by those who can and will. If you put your 45 in his hands he would likely die anyway in such a situation, lacking the conviction to use it and deluding himself to the end that it isn't really happening. They look to disarm those of us who prefer to be armed because they don't understand self reliance and it scares them.
 
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