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'Soldier beheaded' in Woolwich machete attack: latest

Tettsuo said:
Radical Christians are nuts too.

Hell, radical anything equals nuts imo.
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I tend to agree with your last sentence. Radical Christians, however, don't go around chopping off people's heads. Yet.
 
MaggieD said:
I tend to agree with your last sentence. Radical Christians, however, don't go around chopping off people's heads. Yet.
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They do in Indonesia. They do in Uganda and Nigeria and Rwanda and DR Congo. They probably have no reason to in 'Christian' western nations. Radical Muslims probably see reasons aplenty to attack 'Christian' nations.

NB: having reasons ≠ having legitimate reasons.
 
So if we want to take away guns to prevent gun violence, shouldn't we eliminate Islam to prevent suicide bombings?
 
Manc Skipper said:
Brown people?
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Muslim People. By the time they were done killing a innocent man, their hands were bright red.

If that's any consolation they there you are.
 
tech30528 said:
So if we want to take away guns to prevent gun violence, shouldn't we eliminate Islam to prevent suicide bombings?
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The only way to get rid of violence is to get rid of people.

Which people?

All people.

All people are violent by nature regardless of their religion.

While Radical Islam is an issue that must be dealt with.

The overall racism contained within this thread.

And yes I say racism, because Muslims are more likely than not to be Arab or of Arab descent. Which means they're more likely to be a victim of prejudice by certain people in this thread. You probably wouldn't care if you met a white muslim because chances are you wouldn't think he was one.

Your average Muslim has nothing to do with what this guy did, or what some fundamentalist asshole does anywhere else.

At all times.

I'm more likely to be killed by a fellow Canadian than a muslim terrorist.

In England you are far more likely to be a victim of violence by a fellow Brit than by any Muslim.

The vast majority of the time, the most violent people in my tourist town are drunk, white males between the ages of 20 and 30.

The racism in this thread is just sickening.
 
Deuce said:
About as relevant as the number of murders committed by people who call themselves Christian. When it comes to bad people doing bad things, which book they claim to have read isn't important. People convince themselves their violence is righteous, and then they go find words to justify it. Not the other way around.

in the end, violence is a result of numerous social and economic issues.
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Okay, worldwide how many Christians murder? Is it outside of the worldwide norm proportionally? Hoe many do so in the name of Christianity?

Can we say the same for Islam and terrorism?
 
Jetboogieman said:
The only way to get rid of violence is to get rid of people.

Which people?

All people.

All people are violent by nature regardless of their religion.

While Radical Islam is an issue that must be dealt with.

The overall racism contained within this thread.

And yes I say racism, because Muslims are more likely than not to be Arab or of Arab descent. Which means they're more likely to be a victim of prejudice by certain people in this thread. You probably wouldn't care if you met a white muslim because chances are you wouldn't think he was one.

Your average Muslim has nothing to do with what this guy did, or what some fundamentalist asshole does anywhere else.

At all times.

I'm more likely to be killed by a fellow Canadian than a muslim terrorist.

In England you are far more likely to be a victim of violence by a fellow Brit than by any Muslim.

The vast majority of the time, the most violent people in my tourist town are drunk, white males between the ages of 20 and 30.

The racism in this thread is just sickening.
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There is some vile racism, there's also some vile apologism.
 
Andalublue said:
They do in Indonesia. They do in Uganda and Nigeria and Rwanda and DR Congo. They probably have no reason to in 'Christian' western nations. Radical Muslims probably see reasons aplenty to attack 'Christian' nations.

NB: having reasons ≠ having legitimate reasons.
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I'm interested, go on. When was the last beheading carried out by christians in Indonesia?
 
Deuce said:
About as relevant as the number of murders committed by people who call themselves Christian. When it comes to bad people doing bad things, which book they claim to have read isn't important. People convince themselves their violence is righteous, and then they go find words to justify it. Not the other way around.

in the end, violence is a result of numerous social and economic issues.
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Despite the fact that so many of these people claim that they do it for religion and that we hear it all the time you still try to spin this into something it isnt. Read the Koran some day & maybe your head will slowly emerge from the sand, although I'm not holding my breath.
 
Jetboogieman said:
The only way to get rid of violence is to
get rid of people.

Which people?

All people.

All people are violent by nature regardless of their religion.

While Radical Islam is an issue that must be dealt with.

The overall racism contained within this thread.

And yes I say racism, because Muslims are more likely than not to be Arab or of Arab descent. Which means they're more likely to be a victim of prejudice by certain people in this thread. You probably wouldn't care if you met a white muslim because chances are you wouldn't think he was one.

Your average Muslim has nothing to do with what this guy did, or what some fundamentalist asshole does anywhere else.

At all times.

I'm more likely to be killed by a fellow Canadian than a muslim terrorist.

In England you are far more likely to be a victim of violence by a fellow Brit than by any Muslim.

The vast majority of the time, the most violent people in my tourist town are drunk, white males between the ages of 20 and 30.

The racism in this thread is just sickening.
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Lol...."racism" to mitigate a religion that time and time again has proven to be anything but a religion of peace.

Sorry, but my concern is not with these poor "races" being singled out "unfairly".
 
Jetboogieman said:
The only way to get rid of violence is to get rid of people.

Which people?

All people.

All people are violent by nature regardless of their religion.

While Radical Islam is an issue that must be dealt with.

The overall racism contained within this thread.

And yes I say racism, because Muslims are more likely than not to be Arab or of Arab descent. Which means they're more likely to be a victim of prejudice by certain people in this thread. You probably wouldn't care if you met a white muslim because chances are you wouldn't think he was one.

Your average Muslim has nothing to do with what this guy did, or what some fundamentalist asshole does anywhere else.

At all times.

I'm more likely to be killed by a fellow Canadian than a muslim terrorist.

In England you are far more likely to be a victim of violence by a fellow Brit than by any Muslim.

The vast majority of the time, the most violent people in my tourist town are drunk, white males between the ages of 20 and 30.

The racism in this thread is just sickening.
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Whats really sickening & pathetic is your denial of what is really taking place & your lack of an argument as to resort to calling people racist.
I personally think that this knee jerk reaction to call people racists when there is no such evidence and not address the real issue is a sort of intolerance of other opinions or bigotry if you will.
 
Deuce said:
The radical part is what makes them nuts. Because that's kind of what radical means.
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Religion has nothing to do with Muslim violence?

Ali Gom’a, the grand mufti of Egypt, the highest Muslim religious authority in the world, supports murdering non-Muslims. In the daily Al Ahram (April 7, 2008), he says, “Muslims must kill non-believers wherever they are unless they convert to Islam.” He also compares non-Muslims to apes and pigs, not only the Jews.

Muhammad Sayyid Al Tantawi, president of Al Azhar University also approves of killing and maiming Christians, Jews, and other infidels. He added, “This is not my personal view. This what the Shari’a Law says, the law of Allah, the only valid law on the earth.”

Yousef Al Qaradhawi, the spiritual leader of the fundamentalist organization, the Muslim Brothers, urged on Al Jazeera TV (Jan. 9, 2009) Muslims to kill the Jews, not only in Israel but also worldwide. He added, “No peace can be made between us (Muslims) and the non-believers. This what our holy book says. This what Allah says.”
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[url=http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/8066]Wilders Prosecution is a Welcome Opportunity to Expose Islam[/URL]
 
grip said:
I just saw some footage of the attackers on Fox News and they look absolutely crazy with bloodied hands. They may say it's religious in nature but these guys belong in the nut house, forever.
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The Obama Administration won't profile Muslim terrorists like this, but they will profile Christians, Jews and Conservatives
 
This young man tells it like it is. He refuses to be politically correct. He is right their monsters and they should not be allowed in his country just as they should not be in my country.

 
grip said:
I just saw some footage of the attackers on Fox News and they look absolutely crazy with bloodied hands. They may say it's religious in nature but these guys belong in the nut house, forever.
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nah they should be being broken on the wheel and then fed to hogs
 
Erod said:
No....stop running.

What percentage of TERRORIST attacks are committed by Muslims?
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You tell me, you're trying to make some point here.
 
SgtRock said:
This young man tells it like it is. He refuses to be politically correct. He is right their monsters and they should not be allowed in his country just as they should not be in my country.

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Yes, we should have a religion test in the United States. If you are too religious, fanatic even, we kick you out. That is totally in line with the fundamental values this country holds.
 
Deuce said:
Yes, we should have a religion test in the United States. If you are too religious, fanatic even, we kick you out. That is totally in line with the fundamental values this country holds.
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No we should not have a religious test. However Islam is not compatible with democracy. So we should not allow muslims into the the States. Simple as that. They hate everything about us. Our freedoms, American culture, our religions or lack there of. So why do we allow them to immigrate here?
 
SgtRock said:
No we should not have a religious test. However Islam is not compatible with democracy. So we should not allow muslims into the the States.
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You are exactly what the founding fathers were thinking about when they added the first amendment.
 
Deuce said:
Yes, we should have a religion test in the United States. If you are too
religious, fanatic even, we kick you out. That is totally in line with the fundamental values this country holds.
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Britain, Germany, Spain, France, Denmark ....EUROPE led the world wide effort of "tollerance" and multi-culturalism by stupidly, allowing into their Countries the most intollerant and devisive element they could find, a religion and culture that is militantly homogeneous.

The misguided effort of "multi-culturalism" has already been deemed a failure by European leaders, now they get to deal with the aftermath of introducing Islamic extremism into their culture.

Poisoning it.
 
SgtRock said:
This young man tells it like it is. He refuses to be politically correct. He is right their monsters and they should not be allowed in his country just as they should not be in my country.
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Marmiteman4 (the thug in the video) is a white supremacist EDL antisemite. Such views go far beyond not being PC.

Incidentally, the guy with the bloody hands and the meat cleaver had a very local London accent.
 
Deuce said:
When a Muslim commits an atrocity, Islam is to blame.
When anyone else does it, they're just nuts.
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Unless he's a right winger, in which case it's proof of the depravity of conservatism.
 
Deuce said:
Yes, we should have a religion test in the United States. If you are too religious, fanatic even, we kick you out. That is totally in line with the fundamental values this country holds.
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if you worship big government than that is the sort of mindless fanaticism we should rid the country of
 
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