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    Ignoring academics and relying on Wikipedia is pretty foolish
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    And we took sides with the Islamists.
    right, to stifle the soviets


    Are you noticing a pattern here or do I have to spell it out for you? Interventionism leads to unintended consequences.
    actually most seem to think our mistake wasn't intervening enough, and that further influence peddling would have limited the fallout after the soviet withdraw and prevented the organizing of the taliban

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    I was addressing your position
    If you think that trying to argue when the taliban came into existence is addressing this point:

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    You wanted to avoid addressing my actual point, which was that over the past 40 years we have been regularing arming, training, and funding any group in the middle east that we think will be beneficial to us, and that this constant political meddling, invasions, and bomb dropping has been a large source of muslim distrust and disdain for Americans.
    Then you have serious comprehension issues.

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    RA avoids academic learning. It's like kryptonite to him.
    This is coming from the guy who wouldn't even present his position? The guy that simply tells his opponents to read a book? Yeah, you're the pillar of modern academia.

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    If by "assisting" you mean interfering in their affairs and destroying countries while propping up dictators then yes, that is exactly what causes hatred and animosity towards the United States. Stop "helping" Muslim countries with intervention, stop "helping" the economy with stimulus, just stop doing stupid ****, period. Think you can handle that?

    Of course not, you are the US government. Interference and meddling is the only thing you know.
    You seem to have been born after the end of the Cold War... and in that vein...
    ...Oh... yes the world would have been much better if we just let the Soviets roll the globe.

    Irony.exe is not downloading to my hard drive, could you send another format?
    Try sobriety.exe
    Folks with your attitude are part of the problem. What you wrote is a picture perfect replication of what The Moron with the Machete stated.
    Think about it.

    You've seen the outrage, on 9/11 and the various other terrorist attacks against the United States. It's a response to our disastrous foreign policy.
    The man similar in thinking to The Moron with the Machete... strikes again.
    All I can say is... what a world view.
    This isn't meant to be funny... it's a serious question... are you a Muslim?
    The Clintons are what happens...
    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

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    Re: 'Soldier beheaded' in Woolwich machete attack: latest

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    If you think that trying to argue when the taliban came into existence is addressing this point:



    Then you have serious comprehension issues.
    No, I was replying to your original post on the topic, not your attempt to shift goal posts after being proven wrong

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    Re: 'Soldier beheaded' in Woolwich machete attack: latest

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    If you think that trying to argue when the taliban came into existence is addressing this point:



    Then you have serious comprehension issues.



    This is coming from the guy who wouldn't even present his position? The guy that simply tells his opponents to read a book? Yeah, you're the pillar of modern academia.
    It's not a book, it's an article. And the fact that you don't know it disqualifies you from this discussion.
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    Re: 'Soldier beheaded' in Woolwich machete attack: latest

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    sweden:



    Five charts that help explain Sweden’s youth riots - WaPo

    cbs' 60 minutes, last sunday i believe, did a piece about young male refugees from afghanistan in sweden and how tuff they're finding things in the land of the northern lights

    sizable communities of teenage boys sleeping in tent cities in parks, eating out of garbage cans...

    they regularly tell their folks back home that they're doing well, they're happy---they can't disappoint their moms and dads who sacrificed most of what they have just to get their boys out

    i can't go back home, i will be killed, i will commit suicide before i go back home---is a sentiment commonly expressed

    i am a hi school math teacher in northern california and in the last 10 years or so i have had a large number of muslim students, we have large emigre communities here in the bay area

    they teach me so much about their homelands, pakistan, afghanistan, iran, lebanon, nigeria---i love to sound them out

    i can't tell you how impressed i am with these young students (and their gorgeous families)---studious and responsible (but not overly so, they're still kids), fun loving and playful, able to take criticism, able to enjoy laughing at themselves, outgoing and friendly at the right time, quiet and respectful when such is called for, surrounded and accepted by friends of all races, fitting in successfully, healthy, they are generally some of my best students

    but at a policy level...

    absolutely, not all muslims are terrorists, far from it, but tragically the bad actors in the stories above all are

    for the washington post to publish a 500 word story about racially charged riots and poor immigrant communities, 500 words and not one of them is "muslim..."

    there is a politically correct denial of exactly what is underlying the sadness we are seeing so much of

    there are reports out of sweden describing "vigilantes" patrolling the streets trying to protect their property, the kind of people who voted for marine le pen in france and the golden rain in greece...

    the police are cracking down harder on these politically incorrect community organizers than they are on the gangs of youths who are setting fire to cars and churches

    a decade of denial has brought us here, open street fighting between soccer clubs and skinheads on the one side and hopeless hordes of dispossessed and despairing islamic youth on the other

    so much sadness, so much pain, cannot be addressed by burying ones head in sand

    institutional refusal to see the obvious only exacerbates the excess

    ten years after offering the open hand, the swedes, according to cbs, are now trying to kick the kids out

    it was all very foreseeable, or should have been

    unless clear sighted examination of the problems are begun and careful corrective actions are taken, the suffering will only multiply
    The Swedes have had the opportunity to examine the problem up close for several days now and are handling it in typical western European fashion.

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    Re: 'Soldier beheaded' in Woolwich machete attack: latest

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    sweden:



    Five charts that help explain Sweden’s youth riots - WaPo

    cbs' 60 minutes, last sunday i believe, did a piece about young male refugees from afghanistan in sweden and how tuff they're finding things in the land of the northern lights

    sizable communities of teenage boys sleeping in tent cities in parks, eating out of garbage cans...

    they regularly tell their folks back home that they're doing well, they're happy---they can't disappoint their moms and dads who sacrificed most of what they have just to get their boys out

    i can't go back home, i will be killed, i will commit suicide before i go back home---is a sentiment commonly expressed

    i am a hi school math teacher in northern california and in the last 10 years or so i have had a large number of muslim students, we have large emigre communities here in the bay area

    they teach me so much about their homelands, pakistan, afghanistan, iran, lebanon, nigeria---i love to sound them out

    i can't tell you how impressed i am with these young students (and their gorgeous families)---studious and responsible (but not overly so, they're still kids), fun loving and playful, able to take criticism, able to enjoy laughing at themselves, outgoing and friendly at the right time, quiet and respectful when such is called for, surrounded and accepted by friends of all races, fitting in successfully, healthy, they are generally some of my best students

    but at a policy level...

    absolutely, not all muslims are terrorists, far from it, but tragically the bad actors in the stories above all are

    for the washington post to publish a 500 word story about racially charged riots and poor immigrant communities, 500 words and not one of them is "muslim..."

    there is a politically correct denial of exactly what is underlying the sadness we are seeing so much of

    there are reports out of sweden describing "vigilantes" patrolling the streets trying to protect their property, the kind of people who voted for marine le pen in france and the golden rain in greece...

    the police are cracking down harder on these politically incorrect community organizers than they are on the gangs of youths who are setting fire to cars and churches

    a decade of denial has brought us here, open street fighting between soccer clubs and skinheads on the one side and hopeless hordes of dispossessed and despairing islamic youth on the other

    so much sadness, so much pain, cannot be addressed by burying ones head in sand

    institutional refusal to see the obvious only exacerbates the excess

    ten years after offering the open hand, the swedes, according to cbs, are now trying to kick the kids out

    it was all very foreseeable, or should have been

    unless clear sighted examination of the problems are begun and careful corrective actions are taken, the suffering will only multiply
    Minor detail in an otherwise fine post. The rightist party in Greece is "Golden Dawn." "Golden rain" generally means something else altogether.
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    Re: 'Soldier beheaded' in Woolwich machete attack: latest

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    sweden:

    institutional refusal to see the obvious only exacerbates the excess

    ten years after offering the open hand, the swedes, according to cbs, are now trying to kick the kids out

    it was all very foreseeable, or should have been

    unless clear sighted examination of the problems are begun and careful corrective actions are taken, the suffering will only multiply
    Sweden's had problems with immigrants/refugees they took in from the Balkans War too.

    This is a generous country, one that opened its door to thousands of Iraqi refugees and immigrants after the war. But a few seem to have taken advantage of that kindness and are warping Sweden's otherwise tolerant identity.

    Sweden's minister for integration, the Burundi-born Nyamko Sabuni, is a Muslim herself on her mother's side and she has been trying to warn about the rise of Islamist extremism there.

    But her concerns have been largely ignored by the mainstream and her appointment to cabinet was, in fact, condemned by many Swedish Muslims.

    Now, as a result of this week's senseless suicide, there will likely be even more talk about shutting the doors on newcomers and, specifically, to Muslims. Meanwhile, the Jews of Sweden will continue to leave.

    But few will address the real problem — an Islamist political agenda in Europe that is claiming not just the lives of misguided extremists but whole towns like Malmo.

    Malmo will have a Muslim majority in a few decades.
    No fairytale

    But this kindness has come at a cost to the Swedes.

    Malmo was supposed to be a symbol of Sweden's multiculturalism. But it is in danger of turning into an Islamist ghetto, with a hard core of those who favour an Islamic state.

    Perhaps one of the most troubling outcomes has been the often antagonistic and, at times, violent relationship with the town's Jewish population.

    During last year's conflict in Gaza, for example, some Muslims here threw rocks and, it was reported, pipe bombs at those taking part in a demonstration in support of Israel. People were hurt and lines were drawn.

    What's more, because so many in the left now think that anyone who criticizes Israel is an ally, Sweden's left-wing parties have come down on the side of outraged Muslims in this dispute.

    Muslim refugees and the cost of Sweden's kindness - Canada - CBC News
    I haven't been to Malmo in 20+ years, but was surprised upon reading about the city several years ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by Quik View Post
    It's a response to our disastrous foreign policy.
    Hey Quik,
    I guess the Swedes have a terrible foreign policy too???????????????

    No Quik... the problem is a religion that breeds this crap.



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    Re: 'Soldier beheaded' in Woolwich machete attack: latest

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Sweden's had problems with immigrants/refugees they took in from the Balkans War too.


    I haven't been to Malmo in 20+ years, but was surprised upon reading about the city several years ago.


    Hey Quik,
    I guess the Swedes have a terrible foreign policy too???????????????

    No Quik... the problem is a religion that breeds this crap.



    Um, America isn't the only nation that has been screwing around in the Middle East and Africa for decades.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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