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    sweden:

    The violent youth riots that spread across Stockholm’s suburbs this week seem at odds with the public perception of Sweden as one of the world’s most liberal and tolerant countries.

    But the racially charged riots, which have taken place largely in poor immigrant communities, actually expose deep social divisions that have threatened Sweden for years. There is, essentially, the Sweden of legend — and then there are large, poor immigrant communities where unemployment is rampant, especially among young people, and political participation is down.

    One key to understanding that community is grasping its size — according to Reuters, roughly 15 percent of Swedish residents are now foreign-born. As Malmö University’s Pieter Bevelander laid out in a 2010 paper, Sweden has always played host to a large immigrant population, largely from other Nordic countries. But immigration spiked in the early ’00s after an influx of asylum-seekers, thousands from eastern Europe and Iraq.
    Five charts that help explain Sweden’s youth riots - WaPo

    cbs' 60 minutes, last sunday i believe, did a piece about young male refugees from afghanistan in sweden and how tuff they're finding things in the land of the northern lights

    sizable communities of teenage boys sleeping in tent cities in parks, eating out of garbage cans...

    they regularly tell their folks back home that they're doing well, they're happy---they can't disappoint their moms and dads who sacrificed most of what they have just to get their boys out

    i can't go back home, i will be killed, i will commit suicide before i go back home---is a sentiment commonly expressed

    i am a hi school math teacher in northern california and in the last 10 years or so i have had a large number of muslim students, we have large emigre communities here in the bay area

    they teach me so much about their homelands, pakistan, afghanistan, iran, lebanon, nigeria---i love to sound them out

    i can't tell you how impressed i am with these young students (and their gorgeous families)---studious and responsible (but not overly so, they're still kids), fun loving and playful, able to take criticism, able to enjoy laughing at themselves, outgoing and friendly at the right time, quiet and respectful when such is called for, surrounded and accepted by friends of all races, fitting in successfully, healthy, they are generally some of my best students

    but at a policy level...

    absolutely, not all muslims are terrorists, far from it, but tragically the bad actors in the stories above all are

    for the washington post to publish a 500 word story about racially charged riots and poor immigrant communities, 500 words and not one of them is "muslim..."

    there is a politically correct denial of exactly what is underlying the sadness we are seeing so much of

    there are reports out of sweden describing "vigilantes" patrolling the streets trying to protect their property, the kind of people who voted for marine le pen in france and the golden rain in greece...

    the police are cracking down harder on these politically incorrect community organizers than they are on the gangs of youths who are setting fire to cars and churches

    a decade of denial has brought us here, open street fighting between soccer clubs and skinheads on the one side and hopeless hordes of dispossessed and despairing islamic youth on the other

    so much sadness, so much pain, cannot be addressed by burying ones head in sand

    institutional refusal to see the obvious only exacerbates the excess

    ten years after offering the open hand, the swedes, according to cbs, are now trying to kick the kids out

    it was all very foreseeable, or should have been

    unless clear sighted examination of the problems are begun and careful corrective actions are taken, the suffering will only multiply

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    Five charts that help explain Sweden’s youth riots - WaPo

    cbs' 60 minutes, last sunday i believe, did a piece about young male refugees from afghanistan in sweden and how tuff they're finding things in the land of the northern lights

    sizable communities of teenage boys sleeping in tent cities in parks, eating out of garbage cans...

    they regularly tell their folks back home that they're doing well, they're happy---they can't disappoint their moms and dads who sacrificed most of what they have just to get their boys out

    i can't go back home, i will be killed, i will commit suicide before i go back home---is a sentiment commonly expressed

    i am a hi school math teacher in northern california and in the last 10 years or so i have had a large number of muslim students, we have large emigre communities here in the bay area

    they teach me so much about their homelands, pakistan, afghanistan, iran, lebanon, nigeria---i love to sound them out

    i can't tell you how impressed i am with these young students (and their gorgeous families)---studious and responsible (but not overly so, they're still kids), fun loving and playful, able to take criticism, able to enjoy laughing at themselves, outgoing and friendly at the right time, quiet and respectful when such is called for, surrounded and accepted by friends of all races, fitting in successfully, healthy, they are generally some of my best students

    but at a policy level...

    absolutely, not all muslims are terrorists, far from it, but tragically the bad actors in the stories above all are

    for the washington post to publish a 500 word story about racially charged riots and poor immigrant communities, 500 words and not one of them is "muslim..."

    there is a politically correct denial of exactly what is underlying the sadness we are seeing so much of

    there are reports out of sweden describing "vigilantes" patrolling the streets trying to protect their property, the kind of people who voted for marine le pen in france and the golden rain in greece...

    the police are cracking down harder on these politically incorrect community organizers than they are on the gangs of youths who are setting fire to cars and churches

    a decade of denial has brought us here, open street fighting between soccer clubs and skinheads on the one side and hopeless hordes of dispossessed and despairing islamic youth on the other

    so much sadness, so much pain, cannot be addressed by burying ones head in sand

    institutional refusal to see the obvious only exacerbates the excess

    ten years after offering the open hand, the swedes, according to cbs, are now trying to kick the kids out

    it was all very foreseeable, or should have been

    unless clear sighted examination of the problems are begun and careful corrective actions are taken, the suffering will only multiply
    Excellent post! It's interesting to read a first hand account of what you are seeing, while it's happening!

    Good afternoon, Prof!

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    ap today:

    A French soldier was stabbed in the throat in a busy commercial district outside Paris on Saturday, and the government said it was trying to determine if there were any links with the bloody killing of a British soldier by suspected Islamic extremists.

    French President Francois Hollande said the identity of the attacker, who escaped, was unknown and cautioned against jumping to conclusions about the assault on the uniformed soldier in the La Defense shopping area. The life of the 23-year-old soldier was not in danger, the Interior Ministry said in a statement.
    French soldier stabbed in throat outside Paris

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    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Excellent post! It's interesting to read a first hand account of what you are seeing, while it's happening!

    Good afternoon, Prof!
    Greetings, Polgara. I trust your holiday weekend is proceeding well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Greetings, Polgara. I trust your holiday weekend is proceeding well.
    So far, so good! Took flowers to the cemetery today...lots of people there, even though it's unseasonably cold! We're supposed to get a low of 34 degrees tonight, so my furnace will probably kick on...again! : You?

    Good afternoon, Jack!

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    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    So far, so good! Took flowers to the cemetery today...lots of people there, even though it's unseasonably cold! We're supposed to get a low of 34 degrees tonight, so my furnace will probably kick on...again! : You?

    Good afternoon, Jack!
    Put the flag out but afterward devoted the day to running the dog and catching up on yard work rained out last weekend. Beautifully sunny but cool, 60's. Tonight 34 degrees for you?!? Yikes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Put the flag out but afterward devoted the day to running the dog and catching up on yard work rained out last weekend. Beautifully sunny but cool, 60's. Tonight 34 degrees for you?!? Yikes!
    Yep, we had a heavy frost on everything this morning! : Disastrous for plants, so I'll be covering them again tonight, wearing my winter coat, which is depressing this late in May. BozeMoj! ... .

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    Yep, we had a heavy frost on everything this morning! : Disastrous for plants, so I'll be covering them again tonight, wearing my winter coat, which is depressing this late in May. BozeMoj! ... .
    Gott im Himmel! Sacre bleu!
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    Gott im Himmel! Sacre bleu!
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    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    So far, so good! Took flowers to the cemetery today...lots of people there, even though it's unseasonably cold! We're supposed to get a low of 34 degrees tonight, so my furnace will probably kick on...again! : You?

    Good afternoon, Jack!
    SW New York same thing. Checked the Cemetery and everyone still dead. At least they didn't freeze to death. My furnace kicked on and off all night long and some of this during daytime. I'm not anti Muslim, but there is definitely a need for our intelligence (oxymoron) agencies to get a better handle on the Muslims. Better policy? Better people? Better information! It is certainly past time to get better informants within the Muslim communities to point to potential jihadists or radicals.

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