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    Re: 'Soldier beheaded' in Woolwich machete attack: latest

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    You prove my point well.
    Of course. Besides. Ann Coulter said some nasty things about Muslims...and Rush Limbaugh...so you just have to understand the reasoning and rational choices made by those caring committed faith driven individuals that are just very passionate about religion and country...and THATS they are slaughtering people. If only we werent so evil, they wouldnt have to kill children in Indonesia and Pakistan. If only the US wasnt filled with bad people they wouldnt have had to kill 85 Iraqis last week. If it werent for the US foreign policy muslim fundamentalists in the Philipines wouldnt kill women and children. If talk show hosts would just stop talking about their actions they wouldnt threaten to kill journalists and blow up newspapers. We just have to UNDERSTAND them. We just have to see how...really...its OUR fault. THATS why those brave dedicated souls detonated shrapnel filled pressure cookers at the Boston Marathon.

    Geeeeezus.

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    Re: 'Soldier beheaded' in Woolwich machete attack: latest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post


    Is this hate speech better, or are you going to defend this too?
    1) I thought we were talking about people advocating violence?

    yep, here is what you quote above:
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Again, please cite them advocating violence, if you want to even make a somewhat legitimate comparison to islamic extremists.

    2) I wouldn't need to defend anything if you could manage to actually research something beyond an out of context headline.


    If I'm going to say anything about John Edwards in the future, I'll just wish he had been killed in a terrorist assassination plot.
    Totally hateful, but it isn't advocating violence


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    [Canadians] better hope the United States does not roll over one night and crush them. They are lucky we allow them to exist on the same continent.'
    sounds like political hyperbole. That is, unless you think she was seriously advocating an armed conflict with Canada.

    These broads are millionaires, lionized on TV and in articles about them, reveling in their status as celebrities and stalked by griefparrazies. I have never seen people enjoying their husband's deaths so much
    right, hateful. But not like telling someone to go blow up a bunch of random people for being american

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    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    It's not that simple. This is part of our constitution:

    The Constitution of Canada incorporates the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.[2] Section 2 of the of the Charter grants to everyone, among other things, freedom of conscience and religion, and freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media. Section 1 restricts the granted freedoms by making them subject "only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society."[3]

    Many years ago, a University professor got deported for teaching that the Holocaust was completely fabricated by Jews. It was a very controversial decision, but one that many Canadians felt comfortable with.

    You can read more about our hate speeech laws here:
    Hate speech laws in Canada - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    right, just look at how such laws toppled Geert Wilder ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    No, I'm not stuck on the right vs the left that many here cling to.
    Right! Lol!
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post

    1) I thought we were talking about people advocating violence?

    yep, here is what you quote above:



    2) I wouldn't need to defend anything if you could manage to actually research something beyond an out of context headline.




    Totally hateful, but it isn't advocating violence


    '

    sounds like political hyperbole. That is, unless you think she was seriously advocating an armed conflict with Canada.



    right, hateful. But not like telling someone to go blow up a bunch of random people for being american
    Right. She's a hateful dick.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Right. She's a hateful dick.
    So, in the end, despite the fake indignation, and the characterizations as clueless, you can't cite an incidence where she actually advocates violence?

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    Re: 'Soldier beheaded' in Woolwich machete attack: latest

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Of course. Besides. Ann Coulter said some nasty things about Muslims...and Rush Limbaugh...so you just have to understand the reasoning and rational choices made by those caring committed faith driven individuals that are just very passionate about religion and country...and THATS they are slaughtering people. If only we werent so evil, they wouldnt have to kill children in Indonesia and Pakistan. If only the US wasnt filled with bad people they wouldnt have had to kill 85 Iraqis last week. If it werent for the US foreign policy muslim fundamentalists in the Philipines wouldnt kill women and children. If talk show hosts would just stop talking about their actions they wouldnt threaten to kill journalists and blow up newspapers. We just have to UNDERSTAND them. We just have to see how...really...its OUR fault. THATS why those brave dedicated souls detonated shrapnel filled pressure cookers at the Boston Marathon.

    Geeeeezus.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Listening to rant radio in the car yesterday, the talk show host was focused on the war on terror and just who we are fighting. Clearly, his opinion was that the enemy was Islam.

    Since nearly a third of the human race is Muslim, I find it somewhat frightening that we the "war on terror" could be quite that large.

    And it seems unlikely that "terror" itself is our enemy, despite the phrase "war on terror."

    Yet, he did make a good point: If you're going to fight a war, you have to know who your enemy is.

    So, who is our enemy?

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/war-te...post1061847109
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them all to Christianity."
    ...for perhaps the most admirable among the admirable laws of Nature is the survival of the weakest.
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    Re: 'Soldier beheaded' in Woolwich machete attack: latest

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    So, in the end, despite the fake indignation, and the characterizations as clueless, you can't cite an incidence where she actually advocates violence?
    By consistently spewing hateful things about certain people *cough-cough* Muslims/liberals/the poor, do you not think that her hateful influence (being on a national stage) could incite violence towards said people by members of her audience who are especially vulnerable?
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: 'Soldier beheaded' in Woolwich machete attack: latest

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    By consistently spewing hateful things about certain people *cough-cough* Muslims/liberals/the poor, do you not think that her hateful influence (being on a national stage) could incite violence towards said people by members of her audience who are especially vulnerable?
    Someone responding unreasonable to her remarks isn't the same as telling a person to go out and kill random people. They are not even comparable.

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