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    Re: 'Soldier beheaded' in Woolwich machete attack: latest

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Again, please cite them advocating violence, if you want to even make a somewhat legitimate comparison to islamic extremists.
    Please, it's amazing that you need quotes. Most people accept that they are hate-mongering dicks. But let me appease you...here's a link for your reading pleasure. If you want more, just google "Ann Coulter advocating violence," there's lots more to choose from.

    http://www.change.org/petitions/enfo...of-hate-speech




    you might be a victim of propaganda, but please don't project your failings onto others.
    Judging from the naivete of your above quote, one would wonder about yourself, more than anything else. Just sayin'.
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    Re: 'Soldier beheaded' in Woolwich machete attack: latest

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    The 'enemy' hates becaus ethey are bunch of evil hate filled bastards. Their excuses and justification is just that. Two Brits slaughtering a British Soldier over Britains presence in Afghanistan? Thats as ridiculous as threatening to kill a cartoonist over a drawing of Muhammad with a grenade in his beard. Slaughtering children and blaming Christians? really?

    UNDERSTAND who you are dealing with.
    You prove my point well.
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    Re: 'Soldier beheaded' in Woolwich machete attack: latest

    [QUOTE=Middleground;1061846612]Please, it's amazing that you need quotes.{/quote]

    Why, I follow none of these people and one instance of "advocating violence" from you already proved to be mischaracterized

    Most people accept that they are hate-mongering dicks.
    Again, hate mongering isn't violence. The phelps klan, clearly hate mongers, but they do not advocate violence, and are in no way comparable to OBJ or some guy advocating killing random people.

    But let me appease you
    please do

    here's a link for your reading pleasure. If you want more, just google "Ann Coulter advocating violence," there's lots more to choose from.
    from the link: "So at the moment anyway, I mean I don't know what's going to happen in New York today, but at the moment I'm not really worried of a movement like SDS which really swept a lot of the college campuses... taking over. Of course if it does, just remember the lesson from my book: it just took a few shootings at Kent State to shut that down for good."

    *cant believe I am defending coultere here*

    If you go on to read the comment *within context*, though she might be wrong, she is speaking from the perspective that the SDS was performing domestic terrorist activities w/o fear of reprisals from authorities. And pointing out, that it only took one single 'force" response to shut them down, as a domestic terrorist operation. So there is no real threat of them 'taking over"

    That isn't even actually advocating violence,. Just outlining it's effects.

    Complete idiotic? Sure. The same as advocating violence against random people for not engaging in domestic terrorism, but simply being american, jewish, etc? No, not even close, and in no way comparable to the man who was central to developing AQ ideology

    full transcript: Discussing Occupy Wall Street, Coulter Says: "It Just Took A Few Shootings At Kent State To Shut That Down" | Blog | Media Matters for America

    relevent contexual quote: "talk radio. And you know, those kids, the ones who started the Kent State riots was Bill Ayers' best friend and according to Ayers, homosexual lover. He ended up blowing himself up in that townhouse in Greenwich Village when they were trying to blow up army recruits -- a dance for army recruits and their dates. They were running through Kent State smashing jewelry store windows, burning the ROTC building to the ground, and when the firemen showed up, they threw rocks at the firemen, they slashed the fire trucks' hoses. This was really out of hand -- it wasn't some peace [unintelligible], you know, peace, love not war --

    SUSSMAN: Right.

    COULTER: -- rally, and also, according to the recent reporting by James Rosen, the National Guard may have been shot upon first. But the point is, these kids never realized that they couldn't go run around burn down a building and get anything from -- but praise from the mainstream media."


    Judging from the naivete of your above quote, one would wonder about yourself, more than anything else. Just sayin'.
    This is the second time you provided a quote that was totally mischaracterized. I think I will be fine

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    Re: 'Soldier beheaded' in Woolwich machete attack: latest

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Please, it's amazing that you need quotes. Most people accept that they are hate-mongering dicks. But let me appease you...here's a link for your reading pleasure. If you want more, just google "Ann Coulter advocating violence," there's lots more to choose from.

    http://www.change.org/petitions/enfo...of-hate-speech






    Judging from the naivete of your above quote, one would wonder about yourself, more than anything else. Just sayin'.

    It's not hate speech; it's free speech. We have that in America.
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    Re: 'Soldier beheaded' in Woolwich machete attack: latest

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    It's not hate speech; it's free speech. We have that in America.
    We have that here in Canada, but we also have hate speech laws, too.

    When is it hate speech?: 7 significant Canadian cases - Canada - CBC News
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    Re: 'Soldier beheaded' in Woolwich machete attack: latest

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    We have that here in Canada, but we also have hate speech laws, too.

    When is it hate speech?: 7 significant Canadian cases - Canada - CBC News
    If you have hate speech laws then you don't have free speech.
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    Re: 'Soldier beheaded' in Woolwich machete attack: latest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Please, it's amazing that you need quotes.{/quote]

    Why, I follow none of these people and one instance of "advocating violence" from you already proved to be mischaracterized



    Again, hate mongering isn't violence. The phelps klan, clearly hate mongers, but they do not advocate violence, and are in no way comparable to OBJ or some guy advocating killing random people.



    please do



    from the link: "So at the moment anyway, I mean I don't know what's going to happen in New York today, but at the moment I'm not really worried of a movement like SDS which really swept a lot of the college campuses... taking over. Of course if it does, just remember the lesson from my book: it just took a few shootings at Kent State to shut that down for good."

    *cant believe I am defending coultere here*

    If you go on to read the comment *within context*, though she might be wrong, she is speaking from the perspective that the SDS was performing domestic terrorist activities w/o fear of reprisals from authorities. And pointing out, that it only took one single 'force" response to shut them down, as a domestic terrorist operation. So there is no real threat of them 'taking over"

    That isn't even actually advocating violence,. Just outlining it's effects.

    Complete idiotic? Sure. The same as advocating violence against random people for not engaging in domestic terrorism, but simply being american, jewish, etc? No, not even close, and in no way comparable to the man who was central to developing AQ ideology

    full transcript: Discussing Occupy Wall Street, Coulter Says: "It Just Took A Few Shootings At Kent State To Shut That Down" | Blog | Media Matters for America

    relevent contexual quote: "talk radio. And you know, those kids, the ones who started the Kent State riots was Bill Ayers' best friend and according to Ayers, homosexual lover. He ended up blowing himself up in that townhouse in Greenwich Village when they were trying to blow up army recruits -- a dance for army recruits and their dates. They were running through Kent State smashing jewelry store windows, burning the ROTC building to the ground, and when the firemen showed up, they threw rocks at the firemen, they slashed the fire trucks' hoses. This was really out of hand -- it wasn't some peace [unintelligible], you know, peace, love not war --

    SUSSMAN: Right.

    COULTER: -- rally, and also, according to the recent reporting by James Rosen, the National Guard may have been shot upon first. But the point is, these kids never realized that they couldn't go run around burn down a building and get anything from -- but praise from the mainstream media."




    This is the second time you provided a quote that was totally mischaracterized. I think I will be fine

    Is this hate speech better, or are you going to defend this too?

    ''If I'm going to say anything about John Edwards in the future, I'll just wish he had been killed in a terrorist assassination plot.''
    Ann Coulter

    ''[Canadians] better hope the United States does not roll over one night and crush them. They are lucky we allow them to exist on the same continent.''
    Ann Coulter, on Fox News, November 30, 2004

    ''These broads are millionaires, lionized on TV and in articles about them, reveling in their status as celebrities and stalked by griefparrazies. I have never seen people enjoying their husband's deaths so much.''
    Ann Coulter, on 9/11 widows who have been critical of the Bush administration

    ''My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building.''
    Ann Coulter

    ''We need somebody to put rat poisoning in Justice Stevens' creme brulee. That's just a joke, for you in the media.''
    Ann Coulter

    ''Not all Muslims may be terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims.''
    Ann Coulter, writing in her column, Sept. 28, 2001
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: 'Soldier beheaded' in Woolwich machete attack: latest

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    If you have hate speech laws then you don't have free speech.
    It's not that simple. This is part of our constitution:

    The Constitution of Canada incorporates the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.[2] Section 2 of the of the Charter grants to everyone, among other things, freedom of conscience and religion, and freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media. Section 1 restricts the granted freedoms by making them subject "only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society."[3]

    Many years ago, a University professor got deported for teaching that the Holocaust was completely fabricated by Jews. It was a very controversial decision, but one that many Canadians felt comfortable with.

    You can read more about our hate speeech laws here:
    Hate speech laws in Canada - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: 'Soldier beheaded' in Woolwich machete attack: latest

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    It's not that simple. This is part of our constitution:

    The Constitution of Canada incorporates the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.[2] Section 2 of the of the Charter grants to everyone, among other things, freedom of conscience and religion, and freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media. Section 1 restricts the granted freedoms by making them subject "only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society."[3]

    Many years ago, a University professor got deported for teaching that the Holocaust was completely fabricated by Jews. It was a very controversial decision, but one that many Canadians felt comfortable with.

    You can read more about our hate speeech laws here:
    Hate speech laws in Canada - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    If that's the way you want it then that's fine and it's no one's business but Canadians. That said, it is as I posted earlier: you don't have free speech.
    "It's always reassuring to find you've made the right enemies." -- William J. Donovan

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