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French activist kills himself in Notre Dame Cathedral in gay marriage protest

If your opinion on the subject is strong enough to kill yourself, you probably are a bigot.



Worse he was a Euro-supremacist. From the website that ChuckBery linked in post 46.


Racism | Thulean Perspective

We think we are better, but are we? Let me give you one of many reasons why Europeans should think they are better than others, racially; one reason is our fair skin. «So?», you may ask, but this is a very important factor, and it’s not just aesthetically, and one that has indeed made us better than everybody else.

You see, probably every individual on this planet has suffered from some disease one time or the other, and the weakest amongst us are pretty much sick all the time, or they suffer from some chronic disease. When a person with dark skin suffers from a disease there is not much of a difference; he is still dark skinned, but when a person with fair skin suffers from a disease his skin reveals to everybody else that he is indeed sick. What this has meant in practise, over the millennia, was that the Europeans with a poor immune system didn’t usually look very good (healthy), and naturally this meant that they didn’t as often as others get the chance to reproduce. No such «natural selection» was made in the races with dark skin; nobody could tell whether or not a dark skinned person had a weak immune system or not just by looking at them anyhow. So our white skin has left us Europeans with a generally speaking better immune system, compared to everybody else.

If Domminique Venner was associated with the Thulean Perspective then he would be what in the US is refereed to as a white supremest. I hope this settles the discussion about whether he was bigoted or not.
 
What's your religion?

I don't know his story... It would take more than an article to know it but he's probably nuts, most people who do crazy **** like that tend to be a bit off their rocker. The natural reaction to that though is usually to feel sorry for them, for anyone else who might have been hurt and for a religious person you'd usually add on praying for them to that equation.

in general im christian
i agree we have matching OPINIONS and if this guy just killed himself my natural reaction would be to feel sorry

but since he proclaims he did it against equal rights my first reaction is to wonder if he had a factual medical condition which then i would feel sorry for and wonder how he slipped through thte medicla cracks

if he doesnt have a medical condition (which would be surprising in my opinion) i do not have a natural reaction to feel sorry directly for him at all

i do have a natural reaction to feel sorry for ALL people that in my opinion become so lost that they could do something like this

and i totally disagree, i would never directly pray for this guy if the later is true nor am i required too pray for this specific guy
 
And the far right nativist organization in France (similar to our Tea party) praises him. I hope this becomes a trend in the US.

Keep in mind the majority of the Tea Party is not far right though it could be called right wing (not by me I don't like the terms right/left wing). The people in the tea party want to weaken the hold by the Federal Government not strengthen it a far right proponent wants a strong central government and to be in control of it. Also the vast majority is not racist. Much of the Tea Party would be against gay marriage due to religious belief however.
 
Don't you find the British trend to make "hospital" an action noun bizarre ?....................

Yes, but then again, we use the word "school" the same way. Why should "school" and "hospital" be treated differently?

Still, I don't remember hearing "hospital" used that way very often.
 
in general im christian
i agree we have matching OPINIONS and if this guy just killed himself my natural reaction would be to feel sorry

but since he proclaims he did it against equal rights my first reaction is to wonder if he had a factual medical condition which then i would feel sorry for and wonder how he slipped through thte medicla cracks

if he doesnt have a medical condition (which would be surprising in my opinion) i do not have a natural reaction to feel sorry directly for him at all

i do have a natural reaction to feel sorry for ALL people that in my opinion become so lost that they could do something like this

and i totally disagree, i would never directly pray for this guy if the later is true nor am i required too pray for this specific guy

I'm a non-practicing Catholic.

Honestly the dude just seem nuts. I don't particularly feel bad for him though, he's just some random guy in France. People die every day, if I felt bad for all of them that would be an overwhelmingly large amount of feeling bad for people I don't even know although sometimes I feel bad for not feeling bad if that makes any sense. I think mostly people feign interest in things like this, they just wont admit it. The people who actually DO care, those are the ones you want to pay attention to.

The reason he gave for doing what he did seems like just an excuse to me.
 
I'm a non-practicing Catholic.

1.)Honestly the dude just seem nuts.

I don't particularly feel bad for him though, he's just some random guy in France. People die every day, if I felt bad for all of them that would be an overwhelmingly large amount of feeling bad for people I don't even know

2.)although sometimes I feel bad for not feeling bad if that makes any sense.

I think mostly people feign interest in things like this, they just wont admit it. The people who actually DO care, those are the ones you want to pay attention to.

3.)The reason he gave for doing what he did seems like just an excuse to me.

1.) id have to agree, my opinion is he is nuts but he might have been "medically" sane
2.) IMO it makes perfect sense, i have experienced that feeling with things myself.
3.) if i was forced to bet id GUESS you are right and this was at best a secondary issue he used as an excuse/cover.
 
Yes, but then again, we use the word "school" the same way. Why should "school" and "hospital" be treated differently?

Still, I don't remember hearing "hospital" used that way very often.

Good point - I don't know what he means by an 'action-noun', but I have never heard hospital used as a verb in British English. Perhaps in the past tense as in 'hospitalised', but then don't Americans use that term? We would never say "I'm going to hospital you," whereas we might say "I am going to school you in this discipline." We don't commonly use 'school' in that sense, but it would not be considered ungrammatical. :)
 
Good point - I don't know what he means by an 'action-noun', but I have never heard hospital used as a verb in British English. Perhaps in the past tense as in 'hospitalised', but then don't Americans use that term? We would never say "I'm going to hospital you," whereas we might say "I am going to school you in this discipline." We don't commonly use 'school' in that sense, but it would not be considered ungrammatical. :)

I have heard British people say "I am going to hospital to visit my dad," omitting the word "the." I haven't heard it often, but I have heard it. I think that's what he meant.

So, while it would be perfectly acceptable to say "Johnny is going to school," it sounds odd, in America, to say "Johnny is going to hospital."

I'm pretty sure that's what he meant.

Still, I believe, and correct me if I'm wrong, "Johnny is going to the hospital" is probably correct in both countries.
 
Yes, but then again, we use the word "school" the same way. Why should "school" and "hospital" be treated differently?

Still, I don't remember hearing "hospital" used that way very often.

You're correct, But at least in America, using "school" that way is still restricted to the functionally illiterate class.....................
 
I have heard British people say "I am going to hospital to visit my dad," omitting the word "the." I haven't heard it often, but I have heard it. I think that's what he meant.

So, while it would be perfectly acceptable to say "Johnny is going to school," it sounds odd, in America, to say "Johnny is going to hospital."

I'm pretty sure that's what he meant.

Still, I believe, and correct me if I'm wrong, "Johnny is going to the hospital" is probably correct in both countries.

Thanks - I understand better now. I have certainly heard "I am going to hospital to visit my dad/mum." and I might say "I am going to hospital on Wednesday, for some tests." I just hadn't heard the term 'action-noun' before. :)

And of course "Johnny is going to the hospital." is the grammatically correct form in both our respective societies.:)

LOL, some of the vagaries of British speech come from the many regional usages. "There's trouble't mill!" would be instantly understood by a Yorkshireman, while it may appear ungrammatical to an educated American. Dropping the article is not uncommon in informal speech 'oop north'. :mrgreen:
 
Thanks - I understand better now. I have certainly heard "I am going to hospital to visit my dad/mum." and I might say "I am going to hospital on Wednesday, for some tests." I just hadn't heard the term 'action-noun' before. :)

And of course "Johnny is going to the hospital." is the grammatically correct form in both our respective societies.:)

LOL, some of the vagaries of British speech come from the many regional usages. "There's trouble't mill!" would be instantly understood by a Yorkshireman, while it may appear ungrammatical to an educated American. Dropping the article is not uncommon in informal speech 'oop north'. :mrgreen:

"Action noun" ---The transformation of a thing into an activity.......................
 
"Action noun" ---The transformation of a thing into an activity.......................

Thanks, but as I understand it, a noun (thing) which is verbally transformed into an action, becomes a verb. Could you explain further? :)
 
Thanks - I understand better now. I have certainly heard "I am going to hospital to visit my dad/mum." and I might say "I am going to hospital on Wednesday, for some tests." I just hadn't heard the term 'action-noun' before. :)

And of course "Johnny is going to the hospital." is the grammatically correct form in both our respective societies.:)

LOL, some of the vagaries of British speech come from the many regional usages. "There's trouble't mill!" would be instantly understood by a Yorkshireman, while it may appear ungrammatical to an educated American. Dropping the article is not uncommon in informal speech 'oop north'. :mrgreen:

In Britain, "regional" can depend on something as small as what part of London someone comes from! It's really mind-blowing how localized the language is over there in to isolated pockets. You have so many diverse dialects, it's incredible. In the US, American English is fairly standard across the continent - the only real split is between the northern and southern states, with some minor regional variations here and there.

This conversation brings out the nerd in me, but it's quite interesting. Why do some words take no definite article, while other do?

I suppose it partly comes down to a certain role being implied: for example, "at sea" (as a sailor), "in prison" (as a convict), and at/in college (for students).

Why do we say "the sailor is at sea" rather than "the sailor is at the sea," for example, or "the convict is in prison" rather than "the convict is in the prison."

Included in this group, you Brits have "in hospital (as a patient) and at university (as a student), where American English requires "in the hospital" and "at the university" (though, as stated, American English does allow "at college" and "in school").

When the implied roles of patient or student do not apply, the definite article is, naturally, used in both dialects.

Likewise, Brits distinguish "in future" ("from now on") from "in the future" ("at some future time"); American English uses "in the future" for both senses.

Hmm.
 
Thanks, but a noun (thing) which is verbally transformed into an action, becomes a verb. :)

No, not exactly. First it becomes an action noun, then after it becomes widely accepted in the new role, then it becomes a verb.....................
 
Thanks, but as I understand it, a noun (thing) which is verbally transformed into an action, becomes a verb. Could you explain further? :)

An action noun is a noun denoting action. "Belief," for instance, is an action noun. "Inspection" is another. "Arrival" is another.
 
An action noun is a noun denoting action. "Belief," for instance, is an action noun. "Inspection" is another. "Arrival" is another.

Thank you. My original point was it was strange that "hospital " was being used as an action noun, albeit in a grammatically awkward way.....................
 
Thank you. My original point was it was strange that "hospital " was being used as an action noun, albeit in a grammatically awkward way.....................

I don't think they're using it as an action noun, I think they're just dropping the article "the." Instead of saying "Johnny's in the hospital" they'll just say "Johnny is in hospital."

Kind of like how we say "Johnny is going to school" or "Johnny is at sea" rather than "Johnny is going to the school" or "Johnny is at the sea."

It's weird, but, like Leo said, I don't think that usage is grammatically correct in the UK either. It's just kind of colloquial.
 
I don't think they're using it as an action noun, I think they're just dropping the article "the." Instead of saying "Johnny's in the hospital" they'll just say "Johnny is in hospital."

Kind of like how we say "Johnny is going to school" or "Johnny is at sea" rather than "Johnny is going to the school" or "Johnny is at the sea."

It's weird, but, like Leo said, I don't think that usage is grammatically correct in the UK either. It's just kind of colloquial.

Thanks again Peter, I find language very interesting, and as I eventually intend earning my living in a horsehair wig with a ruff at my neck, I am attempting to understand it, and become as proficient as I can. Most people on these boards find any reference to words and grammar unutterably boring, so it is a pleasure to discuss them with someone as knowledgeable as yourself. :)
 
Nothing is messed up, my usage is 100% right and i have facts to back me up while you have nothing but your OPINION lol

You
said that i was "wrong" that was a lie :shrug:
you just said above i mixed them up, that is also a lie

your OPINION may be that but thats all it is, grey is more commonly British but the fact remains my usage of it is 100% accurate.

you should have contempt for being uneducated about the actual topic you tried to make up or about your dishonesty :lamo

the fact remains that grey is 100% accurate, if you disagree PLEASE PLEASE teach me a lesson and factually prove me wrong. or continue to lie about LMAO

if you disagree by all means PLEAS PLEASE PLEASE factually prove that i was wrong for using it, i cant wait to read this and watch you make an even bigger fool of yourself

never mind ill do it myself, one minute and a quick google search

1.)Merrian-Webster
Grey - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
Definition of GREY
variant of gray

2.) The AMERICAN heritage dictionary of the ENGLISH language.
American Heritage Dictionary Entry: grey
grey (grā)
Share:
adj., n. & v.
Variant of gray1.

3.)grammarist.com Grey vs Gray
Gray vs. grey - Grammarist



BOOM

you lose again :laughat:

so the FACT remains my usage of gray is 100% accurate

its not wrong
i didn't mix anything up
and you saying otherwise is a lie or shows you are uneducated about the topic at hand

no please give us the spin about how you are right and these dictionaries and grammar are some how wrong LMAO

remind me who is intellectually lazy again and why you must have contempt for your laziness right now :D

you lose :2wave:

are you ready to show integrity and admit that statements you made below are FACTUALLY wrong or are you not interested in honesty and integrity.


You know that gray is spelled with an "a," don't you? You've even got it wrong in your sig line.
Actually, though, "grey" is the British spelling, and "gray" is the American spelling. Since you're American, I thought I'd give you a heads-up that you're spelling it wrong.
Dropping some knowledge bombs your way.
I tried to provide you with some free knowledge, which, you were obviously too prideful to accept. Carry on.

You mix up "grey" and "gray" because you're lazy and don't know any better. You had no idea that "grey" was the British standard and "gray" was the American standard, you just fumbled in to this conversation. Your cavalier approach to education shows how intellectually lazy you really are, and I have nothing but contempt for laziness.

lets see what you do?
 
Thanks again Peter, I find language very interesting, and as I eventually intend earning my living in a horsehair wig with a ruff at my neck, I am attempting to understand it, and become as proficient as I can. Most people on these boards find any reference to words and grammar unutterably boring, so it is a pleasure to discuss them with someone as knowledgeable as yourself. :)

Thanks Leo. In my opinion, the reason you find language interesting is because you are an intellectual. Language, after all, is at the root of all thought and reason, at the root of all knowledge, and, in some ways, at the root of what it means to be human. Words, after all, are what distinguish us from animals. Therefore, your interest in language is actually an interest in knowledge and humanity itself.
 
are you ready to show integrity and admit that statements you made below are FACTUALLY wrong or are you not interested in honesty and integrity.

lets see what you do?

"Gray" is British English. I'm done having this conversation.
 
"Gray" is British English. I'm done having this conversation.
i think you mean grey, look even you cant keep your stories straight
yes grey is more popular in britian :shrug:

fact remains grey is also a 100% acceptable English variant :shrug:
fact also remains that your bolded statements are 100% false and or a lie, will you admit that FACT or not?

up to you integrity and honesty or not
 
Lets talk more about grammar.
 
[h=1]'Vile law': French activist kills himself in Notre Dame Cathedral in gay marriage protest[/h]


Wow this guy shot himself in a protest against equality, good job moron! :roll:

I wonder if this guy actually had something wrong with him which would be sad or if he is just that much of a bigoted cook which he wont be missed by me one bit and the world is a better place.

Nobody gives a **** about the opinions of a dead man.
 
Thanks Leo. In my opinion, the reason you find language interesting is because you are an intellectual. Language, after all, is at the root of all thought and reason, at the root of all knowledge, and, in some ways, at the root of what it means to be human. Words, after all, are what distinguish us from animals. Therefore, your interest in language is actually an interest in knowledge and humanity itself.

No, philosophy is the root of all reason and knowledge. Language is a tool to communicate effectively and efficiently the knowledge and reason gained by philosophy. Our intelligence distinguishes us from animals, far greater than written language. Which while powerful in and of itself, is but one consequence of our intelligence.
 
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