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French activist kills himself in Notre Dame Cathedral in gay marriage protest

AGENT J said:
1.) angry? LMAO why do you think i was angry because of the "lols" and smiley faces? sorry as usual you are 100% wrong and projecting again
2.) again this is factually not true per the dictionary listing it as a alternative spelling/variant/substitute.
3.) not needed you are factually wrong and i dont know about those other words if they are listed the same but they are irrelevant to you being wrong
4.) and they exploded in your face because your "knowledge" has been proven wrong ;) let me know if you need educated any further.
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You are a very emotional man. I don't think I want to engage you on your level. I tried to provide you with some free knowledge, which, you were obviously too prideful to accept. Carry on.
 
Peter Grimm said:
1.)You are a very emotional man.
2.)I don't think I want to engage you on your level.
3.)I tried to provide you with some free knowledge
4.), which, you were obviously too prideful to accept. Carry on.
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1.) evidence? links? factual proof?
2.) so far you have proven incapable because i use facts and or logic and you have not
3.) your knowledge was factual wrong
4.) wrong again, i wasnt stupid enough to believe your lie, inability to recognize the truth and or your lack of education on this specific topic pick one :shrug:
5.) i will carry on, carry on being right :D

if you disagree by all means PLEASE "factually" prove otherwise. Your information you provide was wrong. But its very funny watching you continue to lie about it and trying to save face after making such a mistake.
 
Peter Grimm said:
Gray is the American spelling. I'm not "picking on" anything, I'm trying to educate our friend. He didn't need to take offense.
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There was equally no need to comment upon Agent J's spelling of the word. 'Grey' is the original spelling of the word in the English language. Note that it is the English language, and that there is no such thing as the American language. The spelling variations and grammatical solecisms peculiar to American English do not make it a language (any more than Québécois French is a separate language). It is merely a dialect of English, and the conventions of provincial usage do not make the original spelling incorrect.

Furthermore, it should be remembered that the internet is an international venue, irrespective of where the server may be located, so the conventions of US society do not rule this, or any other, international discussion board.
 
Leo said:
There was equally no need to comment upon Agent J's spelling of the word. 'Grey' is the original spelling of the word in the English language. Note that it is the English language, and that there is no such thing as the American language. The spelling variations and grammatical solecisms peculiar to American English do not make it a language (any more than Québécois French is a separate language). It is merely a dialect of English, and the conventions of provincial usage do not make the original spelling incorrect.

Furthermore, it should be remembered that the internet is an international venue, irrespective of where the server may be located, so the conventions of US society do not rule this, or any other, international discussion board.
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sometimes when people are proven wrong in their other arguments they try to save face by pointing something else out they could argue. Its a deflection tactic. You see it all the time here. A person gets factually proven wrong or their argument gets destroyed and they resort to insults or being grammar/spelling police or just try to discredit the poster instead of the post and typical it NEVER works. It just further exposes how intellectually inept they are at discussing the current topic at hand.

In this case it was a double failure, the correction/deflection to spelling was also wrong, there was no misspelling and now the ability of the poster is even more exposed.

Some people can just simply admit being wrong, or misspeaking etc etc. it shows their integrity and maturity. Some can not :shrug:
 
Leo said:
There was equally no need to comment upon Agent J's spelling of the word. 'Grey' is the original spelling of the word in the English language. Note that it is the English language, and that there is no such thing as the American language. The spelling variations and grammatical solecisms peculiar to American English do not make it a language (any more than Québécois French is a separate language). It is merely a dialect of English, and the conventions of provincial usage do not make the original spelling incorrect.

Furthermore, it should be remembered that the internet is an international venue, irrespective of where the server may be located, so the conventions of US society do not rule this, or any other, international discussion board.
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I've got the world's smallest violin, and it's playing just for you, bud.

Agent J is American. We're taught American Standard English in this country. In American English, we spell it "gray."

I have nothing against the British standard, or the Canadian standard (yes, it exists), but be consistent. If you're going to write in the British style, go all-out. Write "aeroplane" rather than "airplane." Write "tyre" rather than "tire." Write "energise" rather than "energize."

Had Agent J attended an American university, it's likely he would be marked down for using "grey" rather than the American "gray."
 
Peter Grimm said:
I've got the world's smallest violin, and it's playing just for you, bud.

Agent J is American. We're taught American Standard English in this country. In American English, we spell it "gray."

I have nothing against the British standard, or the Canadian standard (yes, it exists), but be consistent. If you're going to write in the British style, go all-out. Write "aeroplane" rather than "airplane." Write "tyre" rather than "tire." Write "energise" rather than "energize."

Had Agent J attended an American university, it's likely he would be marked down for using "grey" rather than the American "gray."
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I have and I did and they would never do that because they understand the fact that its not spelled wrong :shrug: :D

its funny watching you argue against facts and losing.
 
AGENT J said:
I have and I did and they would never do that because they understand the fact that its not spelled wrong :shrug: :D

its funny watching you argue against facts and losing.
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What school did you attend? I'm amused.
 
Scrabaholic said:
Irrelevant - there is no law saying he has to spell the "american" way.
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not to mention the fact remains that spelling it grey is an ENGLISH variant :shrug:
 
Peter Grimm said:
Alrighty then. That was fun. You have a nice life now. Bye.
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isnt learning fun! im glad you like learning from your mistakes.
let me know the next time you need educated, we will be here to help you again.
 
AGENT J said:
isnt learning fun! im glad you like learning from your mistakes.
let me know the next time you need educated, we will be here to help you again.
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Just let me know where you got your mail-in diploma, it might be good for a laugh... errr... I mean sure man, I'll let you know "the next time I need educated." :lamo
 
Leo said:
There was equally no need to comment upon Agent J's spelling of the word. 'Grey' is the original spelling of the word in the English language. Note that it is the English language, and that there is no such thing as the American language. The spelling variations and grammatical solecisms peculiar to American English do not make it a language (any more than Québécois French is a separate language). It is merely a dialect of English, and the conventions of provincial usage do not make the original spelling incorrect.

Furthermore, it should be remembered that the internet is an international venue, irrespective of where the server may be located, so the conventions of US society do not rule this, or any other, international discussion board.
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AGENT J said:
sometimes when people are proven wrong in their other arguments they try to save face by pointing something else out they could argue. Its a deflection tactic. You see it all the time here. A person gets factually proven wrong or their argument gets destroyed and they resort to insults or being grammar/spelling police or just try to discredit the poster instead of the post and typical it NEVER works. It just further exposes how intellectually inept they are at discussing the current topic at hand.

In this case it was a double failure, the correction/deflection to spelling was also wrong, there was no misspelling and now the ability of the poster is even more exposed.

Some people can just simply admit being wrong, or misspeaking etc etc. it shows their integrity and maturity. Some can not :shrug:
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Peter Grimm said:
Just let me know where you got your mail-in diploma, it might be good for a laugh... errr... I mean sure man, I'll let you know "the next time I need educated." :lamo
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BOOM! and there you have it

thanks you fro doing exactly what we knew you would do

and there you have it, a failed insult to deflect from being embarrassed and factually proved wrong,

i have facts and proof on my said and all you have is "nu-huh"
you have been throughly educated by me and the others posters here, if you choose to ignore the facts and stick with your lies thats on you

fact is grey is 100% an acceptable ENGLISH variant, this fact will never change no matter how much you try :D

you lose, let us know when you are ready to stay on topic, be civil and have a honest discussion
hell let us know when you have facts to back up your lie, we'll be here waiting
 
Peter Grimm said:
I've got the world's smallest violin, and it's playing just for you, bud.
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I've no idea to what you are referring with that comment. It obviously has some local meaning, but I am insufficiently familiar with your colloquialisms to divine it.

Peter Grimm said:
Agent J is American. We're taught American Standard English in this country. In American English, we spell it "gray."

I have nothing against the British standard, or the Canadian standard (yes, it exists), but be consistent. If you're going to write in the British style, go all-out. Write "aeroplane" rather than "airplane." Write "tyre" rather than "tire." Write "energise" rather than "energize."

Had Agent J attended an American university, it's likely he would be marked down for using "grey" rather than the American "gray."
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I understand the point you are making about consistency, but I think you may be being a little precious in this instance. Per example, I quite like some of the vagaries of the American dialect in spoken form (similarly with the Scottish and Irish dialects), and I frequently use American-originated terms - sometimes seriously, and sometimes jocularly - for which I bear criticism from my elders (you have no idea how much American English is deplored by the establishment in my society). I think they are being similarly precious. :)

I would not understand it at the university level, but I can understand the need for consistency in spelling at the primary and secondary school levels. So I can see why I, for instance, might have been marked down for using the original English spelling at an American junior or high school.

So while I can see your point, given all the circumstances, including that this is an international venue, I consider your correction uncalled for in this instance. Sorry! :)
 
Leo said:
I've no idea to what you are referring with that comment. It obviously has some local meaning, but I am insufficiently familiar with your colloquialisms to divine it.
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You see, violins play sad music... errr...forget it. Yes, it's an American colloquialism. I suppose you can google it.

etymology - Where did the expression 'playing the world's smallest violin' come from? - English Language & Usage Stack Exchange


Leo said:
I understand the point you are making about consistency, but I think you may be being a little precious in this instance. Per example, I quite like some of the vagaries of the American dialect in spoken form (similarly with the Scottish and Irish dialects), and I frequently use American-originated terms - sometimes seriously, and sometimes jocularly - for which I bear criticism from my elders (you have no idea how much American English is deplored by the establishment in my society). I think they are being similarly precious. :)

I would not understand it at the university level, but I can understand the need for consistency in spelling at the primary and secondary school levels. So I can see why I, for instance, might have been marked down for using the original English spelling at an American junior or high school.

So while I can see your point, given all the circumstances, including that this is an international venue, I consider your correction uncalled for in this instance. Sorry! :)
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Hey, that's OK.

I attended a very stuffy, or "precious," as you say, boarding school in Europe as a teenager. I was one of only two Americans attending. One instructor in particular, a very prim British gentleman, gleaned quite a bit of enjoyment from marking down any hint of American spelling or grammar I had the misfortune of including in my essays. The "colonials," as he would say, "have it all wrong."

In time, I learned to speak and write in the standard British form.

I attended Duke University in the USA. Applying as an American, I had to take standardized tests that measure spelling and grammar. The standard spelling and grammar used for the tests, though, was of course the American standard. Thus, I had to re-learn a good part of the English language, in a sense. (One example, my British teacher would have marked me down for writing "I had to to take standardized tests that measure spelling and grammar," as in Britain it would be "I had to take standardised tests which measure spelling and grammar," but the tests would have marked me down for writing it in the British standard)

As I haven't been back to Europe since, my language has become more American with every passing year.

Either way, I have a great deal of respect for either system. However, as a matter of usefulness, it is good to have full command of one of the major standards.
 
Peter Grimm said:
You see, violins play sad music... errr...forget it. Yes, it's an American colloquialism. I suppose you can google it.

etymology - Where did the expression 'playing the world's smallest violin' come from? - English Language & Usage Stack Exchange




Hey, that's OK.

I attended a very stuffy, or "precious," as you say, boarding school in Europe as a teenager. I was one of only two Americans attending. One instructor in particular, a very prim British gentleman, gleaned quite a bit of enjoyment from marking down any hint of American spelling or grammar I had the misfortune of including in my essays. The "colonials," as he would say, "have it all wrong."

In time, I learned to speak and write in the standard British form.

I attended Duke University in the USA. Applying as an American, I had to take standardized tests that measure spelling and grammar. The standard spelling and grammar used for the tests, though, was of course the American standard. Thus, I had to re-learn a good part of the English language, in a sense. (One example, my British teacher would have marked me down for writing "I had to to take standardized tests that measure spelling and grammar," as in Britain it would be "I had to take standardised tests which measure spelling and grammar," but the tests would have marked me down for writing it in the British standard)

As I haven't been back to Europe since, my language has become more American with every passing year.

Either way, I have a great deal of respect for either system. However, as a matter of usefulness, it is good to have full command of one of the major standards.
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seems you need a refresher course since you were factually wrong :)
let us know when this fact changes
 
AGENT J said:
seems you need a refresher course since you were factually wrong :)
let us know when this fact changes
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This is why you're messed up. I learned both systems because I was forced to. I lived abroad, and I worked hard to learn the British system so I could get good enough grades in their school system to be able to come home for college. Then I worked hard to learn the American system so I could get in to the school I wanted to attend, and excel there.

You mix up "grey" and "gray" because you're lazy and don't know any better. You had no idea that "grey" was the British standard and "gray" was the American standard, you just fumbled in to this conversation.

Your cavalier approach to education shows how intellectually lazy you really are, and I have nothing but contempt for laziness.
 
Peter Grimm said:
This is why you're messed up. I learned both systems because I was forced to. I lived abroad, and I worked hard to learn the British system so I could get good enough grades in their school system to be able to come home for college. Then I worked hard to learn the American system so I could get in to the school I wanted to attend, and excel there.

You mix up "grey" and "gray" because you're lazy and don't know any better. You had no idea that "grey" was the British standard and "gray" was the American standard, you just fumbled in to this conversation.

Your cavalier approach to education shows how intellectually lazy you really are, and I have nothing but contempt for laziness.
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Don't you find the British trend to make "hospital" an action noun bizarre ?....................
 
Peter Grimm said:
This is why you're messed up. I learned both systems because I was forced to. I lived abroad, and I worked hard to learn the British system so I could get good enough grades in their school system to be able to come home for college. Then I worked hard to learn the American system so I could get in to the school I wanted to attend, and excel there.

You mix up "grey" and "gray" because you're lazy and don't know any better. You had no idea that "grey" was the British standard and "gray" was the American standard, you just fumbled in to this conversation.

Your cavalier approach to education shows how intellectually lazy you really are, and I have nothing but contempt for laziness.
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Nothing is messed up, my usage is 100% right and i have facts to back me up while you have nothing but your OPINION lol

You said that i was "wrong" that was a lie :shrug:
you just said above i mixed them up, that is also a lie

your OPINION may be that but thats all it is, grey is more commonly British but the fact remains my usage of it is 100% accurate.

you should have contempt for being uneducated about the actual topic you tried to make up or about your dishonesty :lamo

the fact remains that grey is 100% accurate, if you disagree PLEASE PLEASE teach me a lesson and factually prove me wrong. or continue to lie about LMAO

if you disagree by all means PLEAS PLEASE PLEASE factually prove that i was wrong for using it, i cant wait to read this and watch you make an even bigger fool of yourself

never mind ill do it myself, one minute and a quick google search

1.)Merrian-Webster
Grey - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
Definition of GREY
variant of gray

2.) The AMERICAN heritage dictionary of the ENGLISH language.
American Heritage Dictionary Entry: grey
grey (grā)
Share:
adj., n. & v.
Variant of gray1.

3.)grammarist.com Grey vs Gray
Gray vs. grey - Grammarist

Gray and grey are different spellings of the same word, and both are used throughout the English-speaking world. But gray is more common in American English, while grey is more common in all the other main varieties of English. In the U.K., for instance, grey appears about twenty times for every instance of gray. In the U.S. the ratio is reversed.

Both spellings, which have origins in the Old English grǽg, have existed hundreds of years.1 Grey gained ascendancy in all varieties of English in the early 18th century, but its dominance as the preferred form was checked when American writers adopted gray about a century later. As the Ngram below shows, this change in American English came around 1825. Since then, both forms have remained fairly common throughout the English-speaking world, but the favoring of gray in the U.S. and grey everywhere else has remained consistent.
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BOOM

you lose again :laughat:

so the FACT remains my usage of gray is 100% accurate

its not wrong
i didn't mix anything up
and you saying otherwise is a lie or shows you are uneducated about the topic at hand

no please give us the spin about how you are right and these dictionaries and grammar are some how wrong LMAO

remind me who is intellectually lazy again and why you must have contempt for your laziness right now :D

you lose :2wave:
 
AGENT J said:
[h=1]'Vile law': French activist kills himself in Notre Dame Cathedral in gay marriage protest[/h]


Wow this guy shot himself in a protest against equality, good job moron! :roll:

I wonder if this guy actually had something wrong with him which would be sad or if he is just that much of a bigoted cook which he wont be missed by me one bit and the world is a better place.
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If I were a good and/or particularly religious person I would feel bad for him and/or pray for his soul. I guess your neither a good or religious person either...
 
Monserrat said:
If I were a good and/or particularly religious person I would feel bad for him and/or pray for his soul. I guess your neither a good or religious person either...
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your guess would be wrong
1.) i am religious
2.) if he had some condition i said its sad
3.) if he didnt in my opniion i think he is a loon
4.) religion or being good doesnt require me to pray for his soul

:shrug:
 
AGENT J said:
your guess would be wrong
1.) i am religious
2.) if he had some condition i said its sad
3.) if he didnt in my opniion i think he is a loon
4.) religion or being good doesnt require me to pray for his soul

:shrug:
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What's your religion?

I don't know his story... It would take more than an article to know it but he's probably nuts, most people who do crazy **** like that tend to be a bit off their rocker. The natural reaction to that though is usually to feel sorry for them, for anyone else who might have been hurt and for a religious person you'd usually add on praying for them to that equation.
 
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