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    Re: French activist kills himself in Notre Dame Cathedral in gay marriage protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    What school did you attend? I'm amused.
    doesnt matter, it was an american university

    amused at being factually wrong?
    that's weird
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    Re: French activist kills himself in Notre Dame Cathedral in gay marriage protest

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    doesnt matter, it was an american university

    amused at being factually wrong?
    that's weird
    Alrighty then. That was fun. You have a nice life now. Bye.

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    Re: French activist kills himself in Notre Dame Cathedral in gay marriage protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Alrighty then. That was fun. You have a nice life now. Bye.
    isnt learning fun! im glad you like learning from your mistakes.
    let me know the next time you need educated, we will be here to help you again.
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    Re: French activist kills himself in Notre Dame Cathedral in gay marriage protest

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    isnt learning fun! im glad you like learning from your mistakes.
    let me know the next time you need educated, we will be here to help you again.
    Just let me know where you got your mail-in diploma, it might be good for a laugh... errr... I mean sure man, I'll let you know "the next time I need educated."

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    Re: French activist kills himself in Notre Dame Cathedral in gay marriage protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    There was equally no need to comment upon Agent J's spelling of the word. 'Grey' is the original spelling of the word in the English language. Note that it is the English language, and that there is no such thing as the American language. The spelling variations and grammatical solecisms peculiar to American English do not make it a language (any more than Québécois French is a separate language). It is merely a dialect of English, and the conventions of provincial usage do not make the original spelling incorrect.

    Furthermore, it should be remembered that the internet is an international venue, irrespective of where the server may be located, so the conventions of US society do not rule this, or any other, international discussion board.



    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    sometimes when people are proven wrong in their other arguments they try to save face by pointing something else out they could argue. Its a deflection tactic. You see it all the time here. A person gets factually proven wrong or their argument gets destroyed and they resort to insults or being grammar/spelling police or just try to discredit the poster instead of the post and typical it NEVER works. It just further exposes how intellectually inept they are at discussing the current topic at hand.

    In this case it was a double failure, the correction/deflection to spelling was also wrong, there was no misspelling and now the ability of the poster is even more exposed.

    Some people can just simply admit being wrong, or misspeaking etc etc. it shows their integrity and maturity. Some can not


    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Just let me know where you got your mail-in diploma, it might be good for a laugh... errr... I mean sure man, I'll let you know "the next time I need educated."
    BOOM! and there you have it

    thanks you fro doing exactly what we knew you would do

    and there you have it, a failed insult to deflect from being embarrassed and factually proved wrong,

    i have facts and proof on my said and all you have is "nu-huh"
    you have been throughly educated by me and the others posters here, if you choose to ignore the facts and stick with your lies thats on you

    fact is grey is 100% an acceptable ENGLISH variant, this fact will never change no matter how much you try

    you lose, let us know when you are ready to stay on topic, be civil and have a honest discussion
    hell let us know when you have facts to back up your lie, we'll be here waiting
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    Re: French activist kills himself in Notre Dame Cathedral in gay marriage protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I've got the world's smallest violin, and it's playing just for you, bud.
    I've no idea to what you are referring with that comment. It obviously has some local meaning, but I am insufficiently familiar with your colloquialisms to divine it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Agent J is American. We're taught American Standard English in this country. In American English, we spell it "gray."

    I have nothing against the British standard, or the Canadian standard (yes, it exists), but be consistent. If you're going to write in the British style, go all-out. Write "aeroplane" rather than "airplane." Write "tyre" rather than "tire." Write "energise" rather than "energize."

    Had Agent J attended an American university, it's likely he would be marked down for using "grey" rather than the American "gray."
    I understand the point you are making about consistency, but I think you may be being a little precious in this instance. Per example, I quite like some of the vagaries of the American dialect in spoken form (similarly with the Scottish and Irish dialects), and I frequently use American-originated terms - sometimes seriously, and sometimes jocularly - for which I bear criticism from my elders (you have no idea how much American English is deplored by the establishment in my society). I think they are being similarly precious.

    I would not understand it at the university level, but I can understand the need for consistency in spelling at the primary and secondary school levels. So I can see why I, for instance, might have been marked down for using the original English spelling at an American junior or high school.

    So while I can see your point, given all the circumstances, including that this is an international venue, I consider your correction uncalled for in this instance. Sorry!
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    Re: French activist kills himself in Notre Dame Cathedral in gay marriage protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    I've no idea to what you are referring with that comment. It obviously has some local meaning, but I am insufficiently familiar with your colloquialisms to divine it.
    You see, violins play sad music... errr...forget it. Yes, it's an American colloquialism. I suppose you can google it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    I understand the point you are making about consistency, but I think you may be being a little precious in this instance. Per example, I quite like some of the vagaries of the American dialect in spoken form (similarly with the Scottish and Irish dialects), and I frequently use American-originated terms - sometimes seriously, and sometimes jocularly - for which I bear criticism from my elders (you have no idea how much American English is deplored by the establishment in my society). I think they are being similarly precious.

    I would not understand it at the university level, but I can understand the need for consistency in spelling at the primary and secondary school levels. So I can see why I, for instance, might have been marked down for using the original English spelling at an American junior or high school.

    So while I can see your point, given all the circumstances, including that this is an international venue, I consider your correction uncalled for in this instance. Sorry!
    Hey, that's OK.

    I attended a very stuffy, or "precious," as you say, boarding school in Europe as a teenager. I was one of only two Americans attending. One instructor in particular, a very prim British gentleman, gleaned quite a bit of enjoyment from marking down any hint of American spelling or grammar I had the misfortune of including in my essays. The "colonials," as he would say, "have it all wrong."

    In time, I learned to speak and write in the standard British form.

    I attended Duke University in the USA. Applying as an American, I had to take standardized tests that measure spelling and grammar. The standard spelling and grammar used for the tests, though, was of course the American standard. Thus, I had to re-learn a good part of the English language, in a sense. (One example, my British teacher would have marked me down for writing "I had to to take standardized tests that measure spelling and grammar," as in Britain it would be "I had to take standardised tests which measure spelling and grammar," but the tests would have marked me down for writing it in the British standard)

    As I haven't been back to Europe since, my language has become more American with every passing year.

    Either way, I have a great deal of respect for either system. However, as a matter of usefulness, it is good to have full command of one of the major standards.

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    Re: French activist kills himself in Notre Dame Cathedral in gay marriage protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    You see, violins play sad music... errr...forget it. Yes, it's an American colloquialism. I suppose you can google it.

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    Hey, that's OK.

    I attended a very stuffy, or "precious," as you say, boarding school in Europe as a teenager. I was one of only two Americans attending. One instructor in particular, a very prim British gentleman, gleaned quite a bit of enjoyment from marking down any hint of American spelling or grammar I had the misfortune of including in my essays. The "colonials," as he would say, "have it all wrong."

    In time, I learned to speak and write in the standard British form.

    I attended Duke University in the USA. Applying as an American, I had to take standardized tests that measure spelling and grammar. The standard spelling and grammar used for the tests, though, was of course the American standard. Thus, I had to re-learn a good part of the English language, in a sense. (One example, my British teacher would have marked me down for writing "I had to to take standardized tests that measure spelling and grammar," as in Britain it would be "I had to take standardised tests which measure spelling and grammar," but the tests would have marked me down for writing it in the British standard)

    As I haven't been back to Europe since, my language has become more American with every passing year.

    Either way, I have a great deal of respect for either system. However, as a matter of usefulness, it is good to have full command of one of the major standards.
    seems you need a refresher course since you were factually wrong
    let us know when this fact changes
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    Re: French activist kills himself in Notre Dame Cathedral in gay marriage protest

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    seems you need a refresher course since you were factually wrong
    let us know when this fact changes
    This is why you're messed up. I learned both systems because I was forced to. I lived abroad, and I worked hard to learn the British system so I could get good enough grades in their school system to be able to come home for college. Then I worked hard to learn the American system so I could get in to the school I wanted to attend, and excel there.

    You mix up "grey" and "gray" because you're lazy and don't know any better. You had no idea that "grey" was the British standard and "gray" was the American standard, you just fumbled in to this conversation.

    Your cavalier approach to education shows how intellectually lazy you really are, and I have nothing but contempt for laziness.

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    Re: French activist kills himself in Notre Dame Cathedral in gay marriage protest

    my obviously ridiculous statement.
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