To her Wall Street owners: Hillary Clinton: “But if everybody's watching, you know, all of the back room discussions and the deals, you know, then people get a little nervous, to say the least. so, you need both a public and a private position.” - Hillary Clinton: "I'm kind of far removed from the struggles of the Middle Class"
exactlythe law still states that a 501(c)(4) group must be engaged EXCLUSIVELY in social welfare
just like ofa
OFA, Obama Outside Group, Raises $4.8 Million In First Quarter 2013 - HuffPo
indeed a half million dollar gift to this 501c4 devoted exclusively to social welfare gets you regular attendance at those white house quarterly meetings
Early voting in Georgia. On the 20th of October this old Goldwater conservative voted against both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton by casting my vote for Gary Johnson. Neither Trump or Clinton belong within a million miles of the Oval Office.
Scandal draws questions about IRS role in enforcing Obamacare | McClatchy
choo choo!The blossoming IRS scandal over the targeting of conservative groups is provoking new scrutiny and terse questions about the agency’s role in shaping and implementing the controversial new national health care law, with the biggest changes set to begin next year.
The Internal Revenue Service is an important cog in the implementation of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010, commonly shorthanded as Obamacare. The tax agency must act on 47 provisions of the new law, more than half of those already in effect, including the more controversial ones taking effect in 2014 such as the requirement that nearly all non-elderly adults have health care coverage.
Max Baucus, Obamacare's Lead Author, Sees "Huge Train Wreck Coming" - YouTube
lois lerner personally signed letters to 15 conservative organizations represented by attorney jay sekulow in april, 2012, four days AFTER then commissioner shulman testified adamantly to ways and means that such treatment of obama's political opponents was absolutely not going on
Lois Lerner Directly Involved in IRS Targeting, Letters Show | National Review OnlineA series of letters suggests that senior IRS official Lois Lerner was directly involved in the agency’s targeting of conservative groups as recently as April 2012, more than nine months after she first learned of the activity.
Lerner, the director of the IRS exempt organizations office in Washington, D.C., signed cover letters to 15 conservative organizations currently represented by the American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ) between in March and April of 2012. The letters, such as this one sent to the Ohio Liberty Council on March 16, 2012, informed the groups applying for tax-exempt status that the IRS was “unable to make a final determination on your exempt status without additional information,” and included a list of detailed questions of the kind that a Treasury inspector general’s audit found to be inappropriate. Some of the groups to which Lerner sent letters are still awaiting approval.
Lerner has denied involvement in the targeting, which she has blamed on a few “front-line people” in the agency’s Cincinnati field office. “I have not done anything wrong,” she told members of the House oversight committee on Wednesday. However, she then refused to answer any questions, citing protection under the Fifth Amendment. She has since been placed on (paid) administrative leave, and the committee may call her to testify again.
“One thing is clear: this correspondence shows [Lerner’s] direct involvement in the scheme,” wrote Jay Sekulow, chief counsel for the ACLJ. “Further, sending a letter from the top person in the IRS Exempt Organization division to a small Tea Party group also underscores the intimidation used in this targeting ploy.”
The letters coincide with former IRS commissioner Douglas Shulman’s March 2012 testimony before Congress, in which he said there was “absolutely no targeting” of conservative groups at the agency. Two months later, an internal IRS investigation concluded that the agency had engaged in such targeting. Obama-administration officials have insisted the targeting stopped in May 2012, although a number of ACLJ clients have received similar requests for information from the IRS within the past year, according to chief counsel Jay Sekulow.
ms lerner is a liar, she's repeatedly testified falsely to congress at the very least...
she's gonna have to tell us what we want her to tell us or we're gonna throw her in jail
stay tuned, for months and months and months
have a nice memorial day weekend
look at one of lerner's little love letters for yourself:
Last edited by The Prof; 05-24-13 at 08:45 PM.
the examiner yesterday:
Lawmakers zero in on IRS meetings at White House | WashingtonExaminer.comTop IRS officials, whose agency was under investigation for targeting conservative groups, visited the Obama White House more than 100 times over two years while the probe was going on, far more often than in previous administrations and frequently enough that Republicans suspect White House officials knew about the targeting.
Lawmakers now investigating the Internal Revenue Service practice zeroed in on those nearly weekly White House meetings to determine whether an IRS official — or someone higher up in the administration — had approved the targeting and whether it was politically motivated.
The frequent meetings also raised questions about the White House's claims that it couldn't have instigated the targeting of conservative groups because it took a hands-off approach to the tax agency, going so far as to describe it as independent of the administration even though it's part of the Treasury Department.
Former Internal Revenue Service Commissioner Doug Shulman visited the White House 118 times between 2010 and 2011. Acting Director Steven Miller, who took over at the IRS in November, also made numerous visits to the White House, though variations in the spelling of his name in White House visitor logs makes it difficult to determine exactly how many times.
The frequent trips to the White House under Obama far outnumbered the times other administrations felt the need to meet with the IRS, according to Mark Everson, who led the IRS under former President George W. Bush. Everson said he remembers making only one trip to the White House between 2003 and 2007 and said he felt like he'd "moved to Siberia" because of the isolation.
Shulman said he couldn't remember why he went to the White House so frequently, though some of the visits were probably about the IRS' role in implementing Obama's health care reforms, he told a congressional committee. Logs show Shulman met with two West Wing officials working on health care.
But while the health care-related visits were explained in the logs, many others included no explanation. Other sources said the IRS and White House were also talking at the time about an investigation into excessive IRS spending on employee conferences, travel and awards.
118 visits, huh?
shulman "adamantly" testified falsely in congress too...
The reason these groups have been applying to the IRS is not because they have to get tax exempt status, but they want a determination letter. The reason Tea Party want this AND the reason they are scrutinized is because these groups are tweaners; they do not fully qualify because of their political nature. They want to qualify, because it allows them to raise money with disclosing donors. Alternatively, they could apply or be deemed 527 groups. It makes sense the the IRS singles them out for scrutiny as their applications are, by nature, questionable (after all, they are political organizations... and to be a 501(c)(4), politics must be secondary)
501(c)4 vs 501(c)3 vs 527
http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1061836806 (IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups[W:484,732])
Last edited by upsideguy; 05-24-13 at 09:23 PM.
The emperor has no clothes. The Cons will wish they spent this time and attention on Benghazi (or better yet, the AP scandal).
Last edited by upsideguy; 05-24-13 at 09:39 PM.