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    I didn't want to but couldn't resist and clicked your link and am glad I did. I wasn't aware of Max Baucus's role in Shulman's appointment. Thanks.

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    Re: IRS official Lois Lerner to take the Fifth

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Dems saw increasing energy on the Repub side in 2010 and initiated voter suppression actions for 2012.
    Clearly now that this scandal has come to light Obama's legitimacy is in serious question

    There was an obvious coordinated attempt to target the Tea Party and other groups to blunt their effectiveness for the 2012 election. I wouldn't expect the Hope and Change cult members to grasp this, but there are going to be far reaching consequences historically and politically for Democrats using the IRS like the Gestapo to harass and intimidate private citizens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Clearly now that this scandal has come to light Obama's legitimacy is in serious question

    There was an obvious coordinated attempt to target the Tea Party and other groups to blunt their effectiveness for the 2012 election. I wouldn't expect the Hope and Change cult members to grasp this, but there are going to be far reaching consequences historically and politically for Democrats using the IRS like the Gestapo to harass and intimidate private citizens.
    More likely, now that the Republican party has chosen to make a huge deal of out nothing, the legitimacy of the Republican party is now in serious question.... Oh wait, it already WAS in serious question.

    The mountain that has been made out of this molehill, if not such a tragedy given the huge distraction of our government resources from real problems, would make a sitcom of slap-stick that would make I Love Lucy look like a drama in comparison.

    This is complete silliness, Cons... stop it and preserve what little dignity you still have.

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    If you think that this IRS scandal is nothing, then you are the one in denial.

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    Re: IRS official Lois Lerner to take the Fifth

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I don't think it had much of an influence if any. I think the inept campaign Romney ran had more to do with his loss than any group being denied tax exempt status.
    No group was denied tax exempt status... it is just groups that sought determination letters did not get them. You don't actually have to apply to be a 501(c)(4); you simply self-declare.

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    Re: IRS official Lois Lerner to take the Fifth

    silliness, Cons
    McCaskill Calls For Firing Of All Involved In IRS Targeting Scandal CBS St. Louis

    “I’m mad. It is un-American, it is wrong, and we have to make sure that this gets fixed,” Missouri’s senior senator said. “There’s a reason Lady Justice wears a blindfold in America. That is because in America, we don’t apply the law based on who you are, who you know, or what you believe. We apply the law equally.”

    McCaskill went on to say that the targeting of one group based on political beliefs “infuriates” her.

    “We should not only fire the head of the IRS, which has occurred, but we’ve got to go down the line and find every single person who had anything to do with this and make sure that they are removed from the IRS and the word goes out that this is unacceptable,” she said. “It is un-American, it is wrong, and it cannot occur again.”

    McCaskill concluded by saying many groups claim to be charities while doing political work and that it is a problem which needs to be fixed “but not in a way that highlights one belief over another.”

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    Re: IRS official Lois Lerner to take the Fifth

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Clearly now that this scandal has come to light Obama's legitimacy is in serious question

    There was an obvious coordinated attempt to target the Tea Party and other groups to blunt their effectiveness for the 2012 election. I wouldn't expect the Hope and Change cult members to grasp this, but there are going to be far reaching consequences historically and politically for Democrats using the IRS like the Gestapo to harass and intimidate private citizens.
    That could very well be the case.
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    Re: IRS official Lois Lerner to take the Fifth

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    No group was denied tax exempt status... it is just groups that sought determination letters did not get them. You don't actually have to apply to be a 501(c)(4); you simply self-declare.
    Yeah, I saw that on Colbert too...Not sure if that is indeed the case...But let me just ask you something....

    What possible relevance in determining someones tax exempt status could a question like, "How many times does your group pray together, and what is said in those prayers"?

    How is that the IRS's business in determination?
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    Re: IRS official Lois Lerner to take the Fifth

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    More likely, now that the Republican party has chosen to make a huge deal of out nothing, the legitimacy of the Republican party is now in serious question.... Oh wait, it already WAS in serious question.

    The mountain that has been made out of this molehill, if not such a tragedy given the huge distraction of our government resources from real problems, would make a sitcom of slap-stick that would make I Love Lucy look like a drama in comparison.

    This is complete silliness, Cons... stop it and preserve what little dignity you still have.
    No. You should understand that if you believe what you say, those of us on the right have little to lose politically. On the other hand, it does appear the left has much to lose - and you're losing it day by day. Sucks, I know, but having survived using such tactics, there's an elegant justice in watching you hang by them. I believe that's called "hoisted by your own petard". So, since you mentioned it, "Lucy! Looks like you have some 'splainin to do."

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