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    re: Obama administration spied on Fox News reporter James Rosen: Report [W:85]

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    He's not merely reporting, did you read the article? He purposely asked somebody to break the law so he could get fodder for a news article.
    Since when is that illegal?

    The other person need not comply with the request.

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    re: Obama administration spied on Fox News reporter James Rosen: Report [W:85]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Depends on what you're asking. Enticing somebody to break the law is considered conspiracy at the very least.
    No, it is not. Asking questions is not illegal in the US, so far.

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    re: Obama administration spied on Fox News reporter James Rosen: Report [W:85]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Somebody is trying REALLY hard to make this personal and it's just not working out his way.

    Simple facts:

    1. Kim and Rosen exchanged e-mails.
    2. Rosen asked Kim to released classified documents.
    3. Rosen should have known that doing so would mean Kim breaking the law.
    4. Rosen is at the very least guilty of conspiracy to break the law.

    That you keep trying over and over to hide behind the word "alleged" doesn't change the facts. Well, it would for a paid shill. Is that what you are Gie? A shill? I'd hate to think somebody would spend a year and a half of their lives getting paid to defend a website. It seems like such a bottom feeder job.
    Great example of not making stuff personal.

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    re: Obama administration spied on Fox News reporter James Rosen: Report [W:85]

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    According to the DOJ, that Rosen even agreed to meet with the guy was evidence of conspiracy. Asking the guy a question was suborning espionage according to them. By that way of thinking Woodward and Bernstein were guilty of espionage when they talked to Deep Throat and, you know, did what reporters do, asked follow up questions, asked for more information, and so on.

    The DOJ is going for Deep Deep Fail.
    After this and the spying on AP the question must be raised as to how many other media members are being investigated.

    Perhaps this helps explain why most of the media has been so Obama friendly. Either that or you'll be investigated by the FBI, CIA, or the IRS.

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    re: Obama administration spied on Fox News reporter James Rosen: Report [W:85]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Here are the right wing responses:

    So if Assange was guilty, why isn't Rosen? Citizenship?
    My position hasn't changed.Airing classified info makes the reporter as guilty as the person who released the classified info.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    re: Obama administration spied on Fox News reporter James Rosen: Report [W:85]

    I'm all for releasing classified info.

    The government is in the business of keeping secrets.

    Exposing corruption and abuse of power is the paramount role of the fourth estate.

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    re: Obama administration spied on Fox News reporter James Rosen: Report [W:85]

    Just a wee bit more on this from Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Eugene Robinson, who touches on many of the points some of the more thoughtful posters in this thread have tried to point out to certain Fox News obsessives. All ignored of course, but it does goes to illustrate the height and width of the blinders these types enjoy parading in front of the forum.

    Eugene Robinson: Obama administration mistakes news for espionage - The Washington Post


    The Fox News case is even worse. At issue is a 2009 story about how North Korea was expected to react to a U.N. Security Council resolution criticizing the rogue nation’s nuclear tests. The Justice Department is prosecuting Stephen Jin-Woo Kim, then an analyst working for the State Department, for allegedly leaking to Fox News reporter Rosen a report about what North Korea was thought likely to do.

    Prosecutors examined Rosen’s phone records, read his e-mails and, using the electronic record left by his security badge, even tracked when he entered and left the State Department building. How did officials justify such snooping? By asserting in an FBI affidavit, according to The Post, that Rosen broke the law “at the very least, either as an aider, abettor and/or co-conspirator.”

    In other words, since there is no law that makes publishing this classified information illegal, the Justice Department claims that obtaining the information was a violation of the Espionage Act.

    Rosen has not been charged. Every investigative reporter, however, has been put on notice.

    If this had been the view of prior administrations, surely Bob Woodward would be a lifer in some federal prison. The cell next door might be occupied by my Post colleague Dana Priest, who disclosed the CIA’s network of secret prisons. Or by the New York Times’ James Risen and Eric Lichtblau, who revealed the National Security Agency’s eavesdropping program.

    A federal “shield” law protecting reporters from having to divulge their sources means nothing if it includes an exception for cases involving national security, as Obama favors. The president needs to understand that behavior commonly known as “whistleblowing” and “journalism” must not be construed as espionage.


    As the Obama administration and the author of this thread illustrate, it is too late to point out that journalism is not espionage. The knee jerking has already begun from the same old sources of same at DP they always come from! I say lets have full disclosure and investigation of this and let the chips fall where they may. As well I'll put a "bet" of a full year Gold donation at DP that we'll never see this investigation produce a single charge of anything.

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    re: Obama administration spied on Fox News reporter James Rosen: Report [W:85]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    So you support knowingly lying to the faces of grieving families after their loved ones were murdered by terrorists. Deaths that could have been prevented.
    They could have been prevented by not engaging in pointless wars.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson
    Clearly you will rationalize and support all levels corruption and thuggery committed by this administration
    Just as you almost certainly did with Bush. You both are the same, opposite sides of the same coin.

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    re: Obama administration spied on Fox News reporter James Rosen: Report [W:85]

    Quote Originally Posted by Quik View Post
    They could have been prevented by not engaging in pointless wars.



    Just as you almost certainly did with Bush. You both are the same, opposite sides of the same coin.
    Where did you come from? I don't recall seeing any post from you here, so why are you acting like he was talking to you? Ya think you could fake it and address the topic? I'm sure once we know your considered opinion on all of this we will be glad to indulge your other, uhm........points?

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    re: Obama administration spied on Fox News reporter James Rosen: Report [W:85]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    You're the one defending thuggery and corruption here

    Where was Obama during the 7 hour Benghazi attack? Where was he and what was he doing? If Benghazi is the new Birther movement, tell us where Obama was and what was he doing.

    Tell us the crime committed by Rosen here. He's a journalist soliciting information. The Government seized his personal emails and private communications. You're defending that. Why?
    So all a spy needs is a press credential?
    Anyone wondering what I'm talking about start here:
    The Psychology of Persuasion

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