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    Re: Obama administration spied on Fox News reporter James Rosen: Report [W:85]

    nyt editorial board, tuesday:

    With the decision to label a Fox News television reporter a possible “co-conspirator” in a criminal investigation of a news leak, the Obama administration has moved beyond protecting government secrets to threatening fundamental freedoms of the press to gather news.

    An affidavit filed with the judge made it clear that Mr. Rosen’s comings and goings at the State Department were carefully monitored. It said further that he tried to elicit information by “employing flattery and playing to Mr. Kim’s vanity and ego.” That would hardly be a first in the relationship between journalists and government officials, and, certainly, it is not grounds for a conspiracy charge. Though Mr. Rosen was not charged, the F.B.I. request for his e-mail account was granted secretly in late May 2010. The government was allowed to rummage through Mr. Rosen’s e-mails for at least 30 days. (The New Yorker reported Tuesday that Justice Department officials also seized phone records associated with White House staffers and Fox News as part of the Kim case.)

    Michael Clemente, the executive vice president of Fox News, said on Monday that it was “downright chilling” that Mr. Rosen “was named a criminal co-conspirator for simply doing his job as a reporter.” Bruce Brown, the executive director of the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press, added on Tuesday that treating “routine news-gathering efforts as evidence of criminality is extremely troubling and corrodes time-honored understandings between the public and the government about the role of the free press.”

    The Rosen case follows other signs that the administration has gone overboard in its zeal to find and muzzle insiders. The Associated Press revealed last week that the government had secretly seized two months’ worth of records for telephones used by the agency’s staff, partly to determine the source of a leak about a report involving a foiled terrorist plot in Yemen.

    Obama administration officials often talk about the balance between protecting secrets and protecting the constitutional rights of a free press. Accusing a reporter of being a “co-conspirator,” on top of other zealous and secretive investigations, shows a heavy tilt toward secrecy and insufficient concern about a free press.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/22/op...dayspaper&_r=0

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    Re: Obama administration spied on Fox News reporter James Rosen: Report [W:85]

    But here’s why you should care — and why this case, along with the administration’s broad snooping into AP phone records, is more serious than the other supposed Obama administration scandals regarding Benghazi and the Internal Revenue Service. The Rosen affair is as flagrant an assault on civil liberties as anything done by George W. Bush’s administration, and it uses technology to silence critics in a way Richard Nixon could only have dreamed of.

    To treat a reporter as a criminal for doing his job — seeking out information the government doesn’t want made public — deprives Americans of the First Amendment freedom on which all other constitutional rights are based. Guns? Privacy? Due process? Equal protection? If you can’t speak out, you can’t defend those rights, either.

    Beyond that, the administration’s actions shatter the president’s credibility and discourage allies who would otherwise defend the administration against bogus accusations such as those involving the Benghazi “talking points.” If the administration is spying on reporters and accusing them of criminality just for asking questions — well, who knows what else this crowd is capable of doing?

    When Rosen and I covered the Bush White House together a decade ago, I knew him as a scrappy reporter who had a fascination with Watergate trivia. He later wrote a sympathetic biography of John Mitchell, Nixon’s disgraced attorney general. Now he’s learning just how abusive a Justice Department can be, from an administration that has launched more leak prosecutions than all previous administrations combined.

    My Post colleague Ann E. Marimow, who broke the Rosen story, obtained the affidavit by FBI agent Reginald Reyes seeking access to Rosen’s private e-mails. In the affidavit, Reyes stated that “there is probable cause to believe that the reporter has committed or is committing a violation” of the law against national security leaks. The affadavit detailed how the FBI had monitored Rosen’s comings and goings from the State Department and tracked his various phone calls with the suspected leaker, analyst Stephen Jin-Woo Kim.

    Rosen’s supposed crime? [FBI agent] Reyes got his evidence from an e-mail from the reporter: “I want to report authoritatively, and ahead of my competitors, on new initiatives or shifts in U.S. policy, events on the ground in [North Korea], what intelligence is picking up, etc. . . . I’d love to see some internal State Department analyses. . . . In short: Let’s break some news, and expose muddle-headed policy when we see it, or force the administration’s hand to go in the right direction, if possible.”

    That is indeed compelling evidence — of good journalism.

    And how did Rosen commit this crime? Kim told investigators Rosen is a “very convincing, persistent person” who “would tell me I was brilliant and it is possible I succumbed to flattery.”

    Only in this Justice Department could flattery get you a prison term.

    Carney told the White House press corps Tuesday that Obama doesn't think "journalists should be prosecuted for doing their jobs" (perhaps he could remind the FBI of that), and the administration has renewed its support for a media shield law (a welcome but suspicious gesture, because the White House thwarted a previous attempt to pass the bill).

    If Obama really is “a fierce defender of the First Amendment,” as his spokesman would have it, he will move quickly to fix this. Otherwise, Obama is establishing an ominous precedent for future leaders whose fondness for the First Amendment may not be so fierce.
    Dana Milbank: In AP, Rosen investigations, government makes criminals of reporters - The Washington Post

    and YOU know better?

    y'know, whoever started this thread...

    if you couldn't see where this thing was heading...

    you really need to pull your head out

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    Re: Obama administration spied on Fox News reporter James Rosen: Report [W:85]

    david ignatius, wapo: holder's gotta go

    it's a long column, goes into everything eric---from ted stevens to the botched prosecution of marijuana use in states which legalized it

    David Ignatius: Attorney General Eric Holder is not up to the task - The Washington Post

    marc rich, the panthers, the ap recusal without record, the possible perjury pertaining to rosen...

    the failure to close gitmo, the attempt to move ksm to manhatten...

    fast and furious and contempt of congress...

    the february 4 letter...

    suing arizona without having read the bill...

    he's just not very good

    which is why he's safe

    ignatius says holder "substitutes his political judgement for his legal judgement and his political judgement isn't very good"

    he's "feckless"

    fournier at the national journal concurs

    What Happened to Eric Holder? - NationalJournal.com

    and so long ago (19 years) with the jailing of rosty (dan rostenkowski, look it up), recounts the elite dc bureau chief for ap and now regular msnbc contributor, slim young basketball star eric shone so bright

    what went so wrong

    holder is "politically tone deaf" who "doesn't have the right kinds of people around him," jots the journal

    "he doesn't have great political judgement and he manages those issues himself"

    he's "seen as hyperpartisan, dissembling, even perjuring"

    he began his generalship with the "nation of cowards" idiocy on mlk day

    he's just not very good

    huffpo came out 3 weeks ago

    HuffPo: Is It Time for Holder to Go?

    weigant is still worried about:

    march 26, 2013: HuffPo: Eric Holder Admits Some Banks Are Just Too Big To Prosecute

    the nyt june 1 after the rosen scandal broke reported that "the white house is apoplectic about him," so eager to see the ignorant (according to holder, time and again) ag go

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/02/us....html?hp&_r=2&

    you wanna argue with any or all of em?

    knock yourself out

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    Re: Obama administration spied on Fox News reporter James Rosen: Report [W:85]

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    david ignatius, wapo: holder's gotta go

    it's a long column, goes into everything eric---from ted stevens to the botched prosecution of marijuana use in states which legalized it

    David Ignatius: Attorney General Eric Holder is not up to the task - The Washington Post

    marc rich, the panthers, the ap recusal without record, the possible perjury pertaining to rosen...

    the failure to close gitmo, the attempt to move ksm to manhatten...

    fast and furious and contempt of congress...

    the february 4 letter...

    suing arizona without having read the bill...

    he's just not very good

    which is why he's safe

    ignatius says holder "substitutes his political judgement for his legal judgement and his political judgement isn't very good"

    he's "feckless"

    fournier at the national journal concurs

    What Happened to Eric Holder? - NationalJournal.com

    and so long ago (19 years) with the jailing of rosty (dan rostenkowski, look it up), recounts the elite dc bureau chief for ap and now regular msnbc contributor, slim young basketball star eric shone so bright

    what went so wrong

    holder is "politically tone deaf" who "doesn't have the right kinds of people around him," jots the journal

    "he doesn't have great political judgement and he manages those issues himself"

    he's "seen as hyperpartisan, dissembling, even perjuring"

    he began his generalship with the "nation of cowards" idiocy on mlk day

    he's just not very good

    huffpo came out 3 weeks ago

    HuffPo: Is It Time for Holder to Go?

    weigant is still worried about:

    march 26, 2013: HuffPo: Eric Holder Admits Some Banks Are Just Too Big To Prosecute

    the nyt june 1 after the rosen scandal broke reported that "the white house is apoplectic about him," so eager to see the ignorant (according to holder, time and again) ag go

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/02/us....html?hp&_r=2&

    you wanna argue with any or all of em?

    knock yourself out
    Holder will not resign because he has the support of his fellow conspirators and the unstable electorate who support them. To Holder and his crowd there is nothing to see here, it's just business as usual.

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    Re: Obama administration spied on Fox News reporter James Rosen: Report [W:85]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Holder will not resign because he has the support of his fellow conspirators and the unstable electorate who support them. To Holder and his crowd there is nothing to see here, it's just business as usual.
    you seem to forget that republicans voted for him as well in the senate confirmation vote. take your anger out on them and vote them out of office. only 21 voted no.

    Holder Cruises to Senate Confirmation; 21 Republicans Vote No | Main Justice

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    Re: Obama administration spied on Fox News reporter James Rosen: Report [W:85]

    anger?

    LOL!

    take it out on the 56 dems...

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    Re: Obama administration spied on Fox News reporter James Rosen: Report [W:85]

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    anger?

    LOL!

    take it out on the 56 dems...
    only 21 republicans voted no on holders vote. both democrats and republicans voted for holder, so both responsible for making him attornony general.

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    Re: Obama administration spied on Fox News reporter James Rosen: Report [W:85]

    LOL!

    how bout the guy who appointed him

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    Re: Obama administration spied on Fox News reporter James Rosen: Report [W:85]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    only 21 republicans voted no on holders vote. both democrats and republicans voted for holder, so both responsible for making him attornony general.
    Then now would be the time for both sides to correct that error and force him to resign. That is the only honorable way, if there is any honor left in politics.

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    Re: Obama administration spied on Fox News reporter James Rosen: Report [W:85]

    Hate to use the i word...but Holder seems to qualify.

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