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    Re: Obama administration spied on Fox News reporter James Rosen: Report [W:85]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I'm down with that. Information is classified directly relative to the damage it would do to the national security of the United States if exposed. When you leak, you ruin collection methods and sources, making us less able to anticipate and/or head off attacks. When you leak, people can die. People whose lives are worth more than you getting a big scoop and a raise from your editor.
    You would be correct in a perfect worl but administrations classify information that will do damage to their administration and have nothing to do with national security.

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    Re: Obama administration spied on Fox News reporter James Rosen: Report [W:85]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Seriously, however, spies do pose as members of the press - exactly because it is such good cover. They are supposed to be lurking around, eliciting information, meeting with sources, etc.
    Yes but they don't usually appear on a national broadcast news cannel for all to identify.

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    Re: Obama administration spied on Fox News reporter James Rosen: Report [W:85]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Two birds/one stone.
    Maybe but this will have the other news channels backing Fow News which hasn't happened since the Obama administration made them an enemy of the administration.

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    Re: Obama administration spied on Fox News reporter James Rosen: Report [W:85]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    How do you sleep at night defending a man who knowingly lied to the faces of grieving families as they sat next to the coffins of their loved ones?
    You mean like this???????????

    This is what a president does.



    US President Barack Obama has paid his respects to 18 Americans killed in Afghanistan, the first time he has honoured the fallen in this way.

    NPR notes that,



    The dramatic image of a president on the tarmac was a portrait not witnessed in years.

    Why?



    His predecessor, George W Bush, visited the families of dead troops but never received the bodies at the base, in Dover, Delaware.

    Mr Bush also did not go to military funerals, telling the military newspaper Stars and Stripes three years ago that he preferred to meet families privately.

    Bush also preferred to go bed early, but apparently, could never get his ass out of bed early enough to honor the soldiers he so recklessly sent off to die.
    Disgraceful: In 8 Years, George W. Bush Never Greeted Fallen Troops | Firedoglake

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    Re: Obama administration spied on Fox News reporter James Rosen: Report [W:85]

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Who the **** are you to tell someone when and where to post. You need to continue with your BS and STFU.

    As far as the subject is concerned, Rosen is at best a piece of **** for asking for classified material, but I don't think this matters to you. All you care about is attacking Obama and this administration no matter what!
    Do you have any proof he knew what he was asking for was classified?

    Do you also think he is the only reporter to ask governement officials for information?

    Why is it that the government can use reporters when they want to to leak info, but when it is something they didn't purposely leak, they get upset?

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    Re: Obama administration spied on Fox News reporter James Rosen: Report [W:85]

    Big time Obama supporter, columnist Eugene Robinson had this to say today:


    The Fox News case is even worse. At issue is a 2009 story about how North Korea was expected to react to a U.N. Security Council resolution criticizing the rogue nation's nuclear tests. The Justice Department is prosecuting Stephen Jin-Woo Kim, then an analyst working for the State Department, for allegedly leaking to Fox reporter Rosen a report about what North Korea was thought likely to do.

    Prosecutors examined Rosen's phone records, read his emails and, using the electronic record left by his security badge, even tracked when he entered and left the State Department building. How did officials justify such snooping? By asserting in an FBI affidavit, according to the Post, that Rosen broke the law "at the very least, either as an aider, abettor and/or co-conspirator."

    In other words, since there is no law that makes publishing this classified information illegal, the Justice Department claims that obtaining the information was a violation of the Espionage Act.

    Rosen has not been charged. Every investigative reporter, however, has been put on notice.

    If this had been the view of prior administrations, surely Bob Woodward would be a lifer in some federal prison. The cell next door might be occupied by my Post colleague Dana Priest, who disclosed the CIA's network of secret prisons. Or by The New York Times' James Risen and Eric Lichtblau, who revealed the National Security Agency's eavesdropping program.

    Read more: It's News, Not Espionage | RealClearPolitics
    The Obama Administration is getting out of hand in a very USSR/Castro kind of way and someone needs to put a stop to it.

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    Re: Obama administration spied on Fox News reporter James Rosen: Report [W:85]

    more from pulitzer prize winning eugene robinson:

    If this had been the view of prior administrations, surely Bob Woodward would be a lifer in some federal prison. The cell next door might be occupied by my Post colleague Dana Priest, who disclosed the CIA’s network of secret prisons. Or by the New York Times’ James Risen and Eric Lichtblau, who revealed the National Security Agency’s eavesdropping program.

    A federal “shield” law protecting reporters from having to divulge their sources means nothing if it includes an exception for cases involving national security, as Obama favors. The president needs to understand that behavior commonly known as “whistleblowing” and “journalism” must not be construed as espionage.
    Eugene Robinson: Obama administration mistakes news for espionage - The Washington Post

    chilling

    with the sweep of the ap, the outright spying on james rosen, the leak intended to destroy personally f&f whistle blower dodson, and now cbs' sharyl attkisson's disclosure about her computer being hacked, it is becoming more undeniable that eric holder's doj has run amok

    yesterday, relibable lib al hunt, citing "experienced democrats" with whom he has been strategizing, advised the white house to dump holder (which aint gonna happen)

    How Obama Can Rescue His Presidency From Faux Scandals - Bloomberg

    hunt, executive editor of bloomberg's washington bureau and husband of judy woodruff, also suggests obama appoint a special prosecutor to look into the irs and put to bed the notion of promoting susan rice to nsa

    ron fournier, longtime ap washington bureau chief and now editor of the elite natl journal, after collaborating evidently to the same sources, comes up with pretty much the same laundry list of things to do to get america's trust back

    5 Ways Obama Can Restore the Public's Trust and Rescue His Presidency - NationalJournal.com

    it is what it is---clusterfail

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    Re: Obama administration spied on Fox News reporter James Rosen: Report [W:85]

    And on the other side of the coin - dealing with the analysts who disclose this information - Obama indicated a few months ago that he was "seeking new rules to allow federal agencies to fire employees without appeal if their work has some tie to national security."

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    Re: Obama administration spied on Fox News reporter James Rosen: Report [W:85]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Yes but they don't usually appear on a national broadcast news cannel for all to identify.
    Admittedly it was back during the 40s / 50s, but there have actually been several high-profile reporters who turned out to be working for other nations. Don't confuse what is smart with what spies do; lots of the same personal flaws that go into driving someone towards espionage against their own (an inordinate love of risk, love of money, desire to be smarter than everyone else) will drive the same individual to do stupid things.

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    Re: Obama administration spied on Fox News reporter James Rosen: Report [W:85]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    You would be correct in a perfect worl but administrations classify information that will do damage to their administration and have nothing to do with national security.
    administrations do not classify information (though once they become aware of it they can apply rules to how it is handled in the future). Original Classification Authorities get applied typically by the original collector/processor. I'm not saying they wouldn't; just that they don't have the mechanism to do so easily.

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