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    re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    I’m not sure this is analogous with the current issue. Those in the Salon article ALREADY HAD their tax exempt status. They were being investigated, rightly, for actions that could have caused the revocation of this status. None did and there was an IG investigation then that found no ‘wrong doing’. As I’m sure you are aware the current issue is the application/approval process of organizations. One could argue that if these were approved expeditiously the IRS could have potentially brought investigations similar to the ones in Salon…if applicable.

    (but we digress)
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    re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    one more thing for now

    the gop is now gonna slow down

    on benghazi, on the ap, on this irs...

    we're gonna play clock

    don't wanna look like lynchers, let the headlines hang him

    if you wanna know how i know, i'll tell ya that too

    i just looked at sean hannity's face

    stay up, take care, pay your taxes...
    They're taking Charles Krauthammer's advice.

    I know the GOP is in the process of protecting NEW whistle blowers that have come forward on the IRS scandal.

    The GOP will keep going as long as it takes to prosecute those who ordered the harrasment of Conservative PAC groups and prosecute those who leaked donor list.

    If it goes to the WH which I suspect it does then they should hold those people responsible.

    I don't think they will let up personally, not with new information coming out daily.

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    re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    The Treasury Department’s inspector general told senior Treasury officials in June 2012 he was investigating the Internal Revenue Service’s screening of politically active organizations seeking tax exemptions, disclosing for the first time on Friday that Obama administration officials were aware of the matter during the presidential campaign year.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/18/us....html?hp&_r=2&

    Ok enough is enough is this not proof enough for impeachment
    may I suggest you take representative Levin's suggestion seriously. Here is what he said:
    Taken aback, the ranking Democrat on the committee, Representative Sander M. Levin of Michigan, modified his prepared remarks to warn, “If this hearing becomes essentially a bootstrap to continue the campaign of 2012 and to prepare for 2014, we will be making a very, very serious mistake.”

    So Treasury was told there was an IG investigation going on in the IRS. If there is a connection to the White House or President Obama it will come out sooner or later. But so far, there is no smoking gun and you are way ahead of yourself.

    What should happen is both parties use this to rein in the IRS. They have way too much power and are really not answerable to anyone. President Obama can only fire two people who work for the IRS, all the rest are civil servants which in order to be fired they have to go through a very lengthy process and everything must be well documented. One party by itself is not enough to curb some of the power the IRS has, it will take both party and to make this a partisan battle is a mistake all Americans will have to live with as the end result will be an even more powerful IRS.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    How would you know what Richard Nixon's motivation's were ?

    Your'e in here defending a President who is either a hundreds times more corrupt than Nixon ever was or he's so incompetent and disconnected that he could be surrounded by massive amounts of corruption and incompetence and NOT have a clue.

    But no one save for a blind Obama apologist beleives that for minute.

    His General Counsel knew 3 weeks knew of the IG's report 3 weeks before Obama publicly stated he learned about it like all of us.

    Do you actually believe they chose not to fill him in on the IRS's deliberate targeting of Conservative groups ?

    That for 3 weeks they decided to leave the President of the United States in the Dark.

    That they didn't tell him about the IRS leaking donor list from Conservative non-profits to Progressive activist and Democrat politicians ?

    It's not US that will "buy anything " .

    For example I know Obama and Jay Carney are lying through their teeth. I know Hillary is just as much of a low life scum bag as her husband as she told the Father of the Navy Seal " we will arrest and prosecute the man who made that video "

    You can chose to keep being lied to, personally I have to much self respect to put up with a politician lying to my face to cover their ass
    Actually with Nixon, Goldwater had a meeting with him and inform Nixon his goose was cooked. He could only round up 20 votes in the senate to avoid impeachment, Nixon needed 34. Whatever else Goldwater told Nixon, he decided to resign. Without Watergate, Nixon may have ended up rank up there in the near great category. Nixon established the EPA, OSHA, the Endangered Species Act, Imposed wage and price controls. He was very outspoken for affirmative action and his drug policy included funds for education. He opened the door to Red China and began detente with the Soviet Union. He also put an end to the Vietnam War.

    Nixon accomplished a lot during his presidency, but he will always be remembered for Watergate and none of the above.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    may I suggest you take representative Levin's suggestion seriously. Here is what he said:
    Taken aback, the ranking Democrat on the committee, Representative Sander M. Levin of Michigan, modified his prepared remarks to warn, “If this hearing becomes essentially a bootstrap to continue the campaign of 2012 and to prepare for 2014, we will be making a very, very serious mistake.”

    So Treasury was told there was an IG investigation going on in the IRS. If there is a connection to the White House or President Obama it will come out sooner or later. But so far, there is no smoking gun and you are way ahead of yourself.

    What should happen is both parties use this to rein in the IRS. They have way too much power and are really not answerable to anyone. President Obama can only fire two people who work for the IRS, all the rest are civil servants which in order to be fired they have to go through a very lengthy process and everything must be well documented. One party by itself is not enough to curb some of the power the IRS has, it will take both party and to make this a partisan battle is a mistake all Americans will have to live with as the end result will be an even more powerful IRS.
    Levin is wrong. He is making it political by claiming that if this or if that. By not continuing to speak out the story will eventually die out, just as the Levin and the Dems want.

    And it should effect the mid term elections as well as the next Presidential race anyway. The Dems deserve to be thrown out of office. There has never been this much corruption in any American government for the past 100 years. Bill Clinton and Richard Nixon were nothing compared to this.

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    re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    may I suggest you take representative Levin's suggestion seriously. Here is what he said:
    Taken aback, the ranking Democrat on the committee, Representative Sander M. Levin of Michigan, modified his prepared remarks to warn, “If this hearing becomes essentially a bootstrap to continue the campaign of 2012 and to prepare for 2014, we will be making a very, very serious mistake.”

    So Treasury was told there was an IG investigation going on in the IRS. If there is a connection to the White House or President Obama it will come out sooner or later. But so far, there is no smoking gun and you are way ahead of yourself.

    What should happen is both parties use this to rein in the IRS. They have way too much power and are really not answerable to anyone. President Obama can only fire two people who work for the IRS, all the rest are civil servants which in order to be fired they have to go through a very lengthy process and everything must be well documented. One party by itself is not enough to curb some of the power the IRS has, it will take both party and to make this a partisan battle is a mistake all Americans will have to live with as the end result will be an even more powerful IRS.
    And you want me to take advice from a democrat it was the democrats who asked the IRS to target these Tea party groups to start with

    And i have serious question all the democrats are telling republicans not to score political points but how in the hell do you ask a question that the answer will be damaging to Obama and have it not be considered scoring political points

    It is a feeble lame attempt to scare republicans and put a muzzle on them so they wont ask the tough questions that need to be asked to get to the bottom of this

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    i was going to let this go but the more i think about it the more it piss me off. how dare you or any one else scold me or the republicans about scoring political points. the dam democrats stood on the graves of children to score political points to push an unconstitutional agenda so DON'T YOU DARE SCOLD ME ABOUT SCORING POLITICAL POINTS
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    re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    How would you know what Richard Nixon's motivation's were ?
    Read "Breach of Faith."

    Your'e in here defending a President who is either a hundreds times more corrupt than Nixon ever was or he's so incompetent and disconnected that he could be surrounded by massive amounts of corruption and incompetence and NOT have a clue.

    But no one save for a blind Obama apologist beleives that for minute.
    Where did I defend him? I said to rake him over the coals. I said it was over, and that's your definition of "defending him?" I seriously believe that you must be unable to read.

    Do you actually believe they chose not to fill him in on the IRS's deliberate targeting of Conservative groups ?
    According to the OP, that's not the case. Nor did I say I believed it. Again, reading comprehension is not your strongsuit.





    For example I know Obama and Jay Carney are lying through their teeth.
    They probably are.

    I know Hillary is just as much of a low life scum bag as her husband
    This thread is not about Bill Clinton. Please try reading.

    You can chose to keep being lied to, personally I have to much self respect to put up with a politician lying to my face to cover their ass
    And yet you believe that Richard Nixon is some kind of selfless hero?


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Actually with Nixon, Goldwater had a meeting with him and inform Nixon his goose was cooked. He could only round up 20 votes in the senate to avoid impeachment, Nixon needed 34. Whatever else Goldwater told Nixon, he decided to resign. Without Watergate, Nixon may have ended up rank up there in the near great category. Nixon established the EPA, OSHA, the Endangered Species Act, Imposed wage and price controls. He was very outspoken for affirmative action and his drug policy included funds for education. He opened the door to Red China and began detente with the Soviet Union. He also put an end to the Vietnam War.

    Nixon accomplished a lot during his presidency, but he will always be remembered for Watergate and none of the above.


    I hate to admit , but Nixon reminds me of the good old days, when the Right was made up of hardheaded pragmatists...........Now, I just want to sell them plastic Jesus love beads..........................

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    re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Levin is wrong. He is making it political by claiming that if this or if that. By not continuing to speak out the story will eventually die out, just as the Levin and the Dems want.

    And it should effect the mid term elections as well as the next Presidential race anyway. The Dems deserve to be thrown out of office. There has never been this much corruption in any American government for the past 100 years. Bill Clinton and Richard Nixon were nothing compared to this.
    I beg your pardon. You may be right about Bill Clinton as all he did was have a BJ in the oval office. The Republicans really overstepped their bounds by trying to impeach Clinton and it cost them. For the first time since 1822 the out of power party failed to gain seats in the House in a president's second term midterm elections. The Republicans lost 5 seats.

    All I am saying here, if the republicans over reach like they did going after Clinton, they will pay a price in 2014 and lose seats instead of picking them up. They should be going after the truth and working with the Democrats to curb some of the power of the IRS. This is a golden opportunity. Both parties should be searching to truth, find the problem, fix the problem and knock down the IRS a couple of notches. .
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    And you want me to take advice from a democrat it was the democrats who asked the IRS to target these Tea party groups to start with

    And i have serious question all the democrats are telling republicans not to score political points but how in the hell do you ask a question that the answer will be damaging to Obama and have it not be considered scoring political points

    It is a feeble lame attempt to scare republicans and put a muzzle on them so they wont ask the tough questions that need to be asked to get to the bottom of this
    re bold: Do you have a link to you assertion?

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