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    re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    The Treasury Departmentís inspector general told senior Treasury officials in June 2012 he was investigating the Internal Revenue Serviceís screening of politically active organizations seeking tax exemptions, disclosing for the first time on Friday that Obama administration officials were aware of the matter during the presidential campaign year.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/18/us....html?hp&_r=2&

    Ok enough is enough is this not proof enough for impeachment
    The NYT taking down BHO. Oh, the humanity!
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    re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

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    The NYT taking down BHO. Oh, the humanity!
    Yep when a democrat loses the NYT he knows he is toast

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    re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Not that what the IRS did was right....but where were all of you who are "outraged" over this, when the IRS was targeting left-wing groups during the Bush years?

    When the IRS targeted liberals - Salon.com
    I find it hilarious that based on a few isolated allegations that were never proved true, you play the "but they did it too" equivalence game and try to write this whole scandal off as no big deal and business as usual.... LMAO

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    re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    nyt, from the op:

    The inspector general gave Republicans some fodder Friday when he divulged that he informed the Treasury’s general counsel he was auditing the I.R.S.’s screening of politically active groups seeking tax exemptions on June 4, 2012. He told Deputy Treasury Secretary Neal Wolin “shortly after,” he said. That meant Obama administration officials were aware of the matter during the presidential campaign year.
    lisa myers, nbc news, on coffee joe this morning:

    [The IRS commissioner] has known for at least a year that this was going on and that this had happened. And did he share any of that information with the White House? But even more importantly, Congress is going to ask him, why did you mislead us for an entire year? Members of Congress were saying conservatives are being targeted. What's going on here? The IRS denied it. Then when -- after these officials are briefed by the IG that this is going on, they don't disclose it. In fact, the commissioner sent a letter to Congress in September on this subject and did not reveal this. Imagine if we -- if you can -- what would have happened if this fact came out in September 2012, in the middle of a presidential election? The terrain would have looked very different.
    NBC: Why Did IRS Mislead Congress For An Entire Year? | RealClearPolitics

    yesterday the prevaricating potus was asked by bloomberg news...

    he could NOT state unequivocally that he didn't know about the criminal behavior that was going on in this irs

    Bloomberg TV: “Can you assure the American people that nobody in the White House knew about the agency’s actions before your counsel’s office found out on April 22nd?”

    President Obama’s response: “I can assure you that I certainly did not know anything about the Inspector General report before the IG report had been leaked to the press."
    U.S.-Turkey Relations - C-SPAN Video Library

    moments later he added: "in terms of the white house and reporting, i think that, you know, you've gotten that information from mr carney and others... you know, i, i promise you this---the minute I [emphasis his] found out about it then my main focus is making sure that we get the thing fixed"

    politico:

    Though the White House counsel’s office was informed of the IRS probe in late April, Obama has insisted that he only learned about the IRS’s targeting of conservative groups through media reports last Friday. But he wouldn’t say definitively that the White House was unaware of the targeting before then.
    Obama pushes back on IRS, AP, Benghazi - Jennifer Epstein - POLITICO.com

    which is all pretty ugly and all, y'all...

    except what you don't seem quite yet to be appreciating is we've only just begun

    irs hearings and headlines are going to be a permanent part of your little dp experience into perpetuity

    we're gonna subpoena, we're gonna depose, we're gonna go special prosecutor

    and sander levin aint gonna be able to say a word against us

    listen to max trainwreck baucus (do you hate HIM yet?)

    It's broader than the current focus. And I think it's important that we have the hearings, and I think that will encourage other information to come out that has not yet come out. I suspect that we will learn more in the next several days, maybe the next couple three weeks which adds more context to all of this," added Baucus, chairman of the Senate Finance Committee.
    Democrat Baucus warns: More to come out on IRS scandal | WashingtonExaminer.com

    we've already learned quite a lot (which you can't for a whit refute---tho you'll continue to talk, it's what you do...)

    1. nyt: "obama admin knew of irs scandal 5 months before election"

    2. politico: "he wouldn't say definitively that the white house was unaware of the targeting before then [april 22]"

    stay tuned

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    re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Not that what the IRS did was right....but where were all of you who are "outraged" over this, when the IRS was targeting left-wing groups during the Bush years?

    When the IRS targeted liberals - Salon.com
    What happened then doesn't affect what happened this time. It important that everyone is treated equally.

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    re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Not that what the IRS did was right....but where were all of you who are "outraged" over this, when the IRS was targeting left-wing groups during the Bush years?

    When the IRS targeted liberals - Salon.com

    Your claim is false. It is the difference between lightning (now) and a lightning bug (then). Your desperation is showing.
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    i can also tell you (and i will, cuz i've always liked you) that the white house has been especially super persnickity about that general counsel referenced above in the nyt quote

    i will try to get that link to you if i come across it, to tell you the truth i can't right now even remember the gentleman's name

    doesn't alter the truth of what i can hear testify to you---the white house has specifically denied that irs general counsel knew

    i can also link you to politico saying that the white house has only 2 nominees at irs, a commissioner and a general counsel

    politico's point in that particular piece was that obama does not have the power to fire this ms lerner, the lady who's not good at math, who's probably going to go to jail

    mr miller today put himself in serious legal jeopardy, as you probably already know

    stay tuned

    here ya go, he's william wilkins, watch him:

    Obama spoke soon after the IRS began defending some of its senior leadership, releasing a statement Wednesday saying that its chief counsel, William Wilkins, was not among those who participated in a meeting of agency employees to discuss the targeting of conservative groups. The inspector general’s report suggested that a “chief counsel” had been at an Aug. 4, 2011, meeting on the issue, but the IRS said that the lawyers who attended were actually “several layers below Wilkins.”
    Obama: Acting IRS chief Steven Miller resigns - Jennifer Epstein - POLITICO.com

    the other claim is here: IRS scandal: What we still haven't learned/Politico
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    re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    one more thing for now

    the gop is now gonna slow down

    on benghazi, on the ap, on this irs...

    we're gonna play clock

    don't wanna look like lynchers, let the headlines hang him

    if you wanna know how i know, i'll tell ya that too

    i just looked at sean hannity's face

    stay up, take care, pay your taxes...

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    re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Not that what the IRS did was right....but where were all of you who are "outraged" over this, when the IRS was targeting left-wing groups during the Bush years?

    When the IRS targeted liberals - Salon.com
    I’m not sure this is analogous with the current issue. Those in the Salon article ALREADY HAD their tax exempt status. They were being investigated, rightly, for actions that could have caused the revocation of this status. None did and there was an IG investigation then that found no ‘wrong doing’. As I’m sure you are aware the current issue is the application/approval process of organizations. One could argue that if these were approved expeditiously the IRS could have potentially brought investigations similar to the ones in Salon…if applicable.

    (but we digress)
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    re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    We'll see what he does.

    Richard Nixon didn't remove himself for the benefit of anybody but Richard Nixon. He knew he'd be impeached and removed, so he got out while the getting was good. He knew that he no longer had the support of Republicans in Congress, so he skedaddled. Is that really the party line? That he stepped aside for the good of the country? Oh God, you guys will buy anything...

    How would you know what Richard Nixon's motivation's were ?

    Your'e in here defending a President who is either a hundreds times more corrupt than Nixon ever was or he's so incompetent and disconnected that he could be surrounded by massive amounts of corruption and incompetence and NOT have a clue.

    But no one save for a blind Obama apologist beleives that for minute.

    His General Counsel knew 3 weeks knew of the IG's report 3 weeks before Obama publicly stated he learned about it like all of us.

    Do you actually believe they chose not to fill him in on the IRS's deliberate targeting of Conservative groups ?

    That for 3 weeks they decided to leave the President of the United States in the Dark.

    That they didn't tell him about the IRS leaking donor list from Conservative non-profits to Progressive activist and Democrat politicians ?

    It's not US that will "buy anything " .

    For example I know Obama and Jay Carney are lying through their teeth. I know Hillary is just as much of a low life scum bag as her husband as she told the Father of the Navy Seal " we will arrest and prosecute the man who made that video "

    You can chose to keep being lied to, personally I have to much self respect to put up with a politician lying to my face to cover their ass

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