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    re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    The issue isn't heightened scrutiny for political organizations it's the criteria used for that heigtened security.

    If Obama was aware they were using "Tea Party" "9/12" or other typical names for polititcal organizations that's one thing.

    If he was told just that they were going to start investigating organizations that supposedly provide "social welfare" but really just are political organizations which is what this article seems to apply....there's nothing wrong or partisan about that.
    The article states that the IG was investigating the IRS, not the organizations, therefore, your second "if" statement is not possible. Furthermore, when this practice started(March 2010), there were less organizations filing for tax-exempt status than in 2009, so the data doesn't even back up why they would start using a groups name in their examinations, nor does it explain why they asked many of the questions of these groups and not all groups.

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    re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    If you have an effective tax rate over 14%, then you are overpaying. I make a **** ton of money, and I'm nowhere near that.
    I don't know what you do, or who you hired to get that for you but I obviously have a need to file my taxes more effectively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    I don't know what you do, or who you hired to get that for you but I obviously have a need to file my taxes more effectively.
    I use turbo tax. Best 50 bucks you can spend.

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    re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    I use turbo tax. Best 50 bucks you can spend.
    Hmm. thanks for the advice.
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    re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    Several flaws in this. 1st: The Senate would never impeach obama. 2nd: Joe biden would then take over as President (SCARY) 3rd: is there really a problem with looking more closely at those who oppose taxes ( or at least more taxes). they are the ones most likely not to be paying. I certainly don't condone it, but in all reality there is nothing really criminal there.
    Well it's a little early to make that assertion.

    Honestly this is just getting started as now new information has com out about the IRS leaking donor's name's to Democrat political action groups AND to left wing fringe activist groups. THAT'S ILLEGAL.

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    re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    The article states that the IG was investigating the IRS, not the organizations, therefore, your second "if" statement is not possible. Furthermore, when this practice started(March 2010), there were less organizations filing for tax-exempt status than in 2009, so the data doesn't even back up why they would start using a groups name in their examinations, nor does it explain why they asked many of the questions of these groups and not all groups.
    Mr. George told Treasury officials about the allegation as part of a routine briefing about ongoing audits he would be conducting in the coming year, and he did not tell the officials of his conclusions that the targeting had been improper, he said.
    When Republicans asked Mr. Miller whether the targeting of conservative groups was divulged to Obama administration officials outside the I.R.S., Mr. Miller said “that would be a violation of law.”

    “I would be shocked” if that occurred, he said.

    As for the the more statement regarding more or less applications...IRS official Lerner stated

    "[W]e saw a big increase in these kind of applications, many of which indicated that they were going to be involved in advocacy work," Lerner said.

    Which means they started getting applications from a lot of political groups who were claiming to fit 501(c)(4) status and were spending their money on thing political in nature and not meeting the laundry list of things you can do to meet 501(c)(4) status.
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    re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    So you don't see a problem with this ? That information that could have possibly changed the outcome of the election and could have saved millions the extended suffering of four more years of Obama ?
    Do you not read? I said "rake him over the coals," what should I say? "Crucify him?"


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    re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    So you don't see a problem with this ? That information that could have possibly changed the outcome of the election and could have saved millions the extended suffering of four more years of Obama ?
    More like saving millions from hearing the incessant whining from the anti-obama wingnuts
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    re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    The Treasury Department’s inspector general told senior Treasury officials in June 2012 he was investigating the Internal Revenue Service’s screening of politically active organizations seeking tax exemptions, disclosing for the first time on Friday that Obama administration officials were aware of the matter during the presidential campaign year.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/18/us....html?hp&_r=2&

    Ok enough is enough is this not proof enough for impeachment
    No. The right-wing's obsession with the missed opportunities of the 2012 election has lost all semblance of impartial justice.

    Why would Obama even pay attention to an ongoing investigation of any kind when that investigation is eventually going to file its report? If he had tried to obstruct the process in some way you might have a case, but not showing interest in an investigation into bureaucratic corruption when dozens and hundreds of such investigations are ongoing across the government over a set number of years is just weird. Should have he made a point of the other hundreds of investigations or just this one?
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    re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Not that what the IRS did was right....but where were all of you who are "outraged" over this, when the IRS was targeting left-wing groups during the Bush years?

    When the IRS targeted liberals - Salon.com
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