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    Re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Ok, are left leaning organizations wanting to keep their donors unknown similarly? If yes then why the scrutiny of apparently just right wing c4's? If no then why didn't the Democrats, who maintained the majority in Congress and WH, change the 'rules' legislatively after Citizens united? And before you walk out the filibuster argument there has been enough talk of campaign finance reform by BOTH side it is a weak return.
    As a matter of fact they did try to change the rules legislatively, but they didn't have enough votes to overcome a cloture vote.

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    Re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Ok, are left leaning organizations wanting to keep their donors unknown similarly? If yes then why the scrutiny of apparently just right wing c4's? If no then why didn't the Democrats, who maintained the majority in Congress and WH, change the 'rules' legislatively after Citizens united? And before you walk out the filibuster argument there has been enough talk of campaign finance reform by BOTH side it is a weak return.
    Absolutely. The big ones instantly come to mind. The League of Conservation Voters, Patriot Majority, Planned Parenthood, VoteVets.org etc....
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    Re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

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    The Treasury Department’s inspector general told senior Treasury officials in June 2012 he was investigating the Internal Revenue Service’s screening of politically active organizations seeking tax exemptions, disclosing for the first time on Friday that Obama administration officials were aware of the matter during the presidential campaign year.

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    Ok enough is enough is this not proof enough for impeachment
    The republicans don't have the balls to impeach Obama despite the fact they could have this clown out of office before the end of the year.

    I suppose the better question to ask is: do we really want "crazy" Joe Biden to finish Obamy's term?

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    Re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    We do? Who was it? Link please.
    The only group I've seen to date that has been denied for 501(c)(4) status was Emerge America. They had previously been approved in 2006, did no electoral work, and didn't campaign at all. Their mission was to train democratic women for office. When they tried to expand in Maine, it was denied. Furthermore, 501(c)(4) status was denied for the entire national organization.
    Emerge America and its initial state programs were granted 501(c)(4) status by the IRS several years ago. Later, when a new state program applied for the same status, it was denied because Emerge works only with women who are in the Democratic Party, so the IRS determined this did not meet the definition of “social welfare” for the common good. We believed this denial triggered a review of the Emerge programs that had already been granted c4 status, and consequently those statuses were revoked. Becoming 527 organizations has not hurt our fundraising or organizational expansion – we report our donors and continue our work fully transparently.

    Contrast that with Central Valley Tea Party . They were approved for 501(c)(3) status meaning they weren't allowed to engage in any politics. It's pretty hard for me to look at the CVTP and say that they're a legitimate 501(c)(3) considering that all they do is to "educate" people about conservative issues. I'm not even sure I'd qualify them as a 501(c)(4).

    We should want two things. 1). All groups should be held to the same well defined standard. While they made efforts and at least recognized the problem, there is obviously no consistency in the way the IRS approved 501(c) organizations. 2). Donations used for independent expenditures should be made public. People and groups of people have a right to free speech in elections, but we also have a right to know who's speaking.

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    Re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    The republicans don't have the balls to impeach Obama despite the fact they could have this clown out of office before the end of the year.

    I suppose the better question to ask is: do we really want "crazy" Joe Biden to finish Obamy's term?
    I seem to recall that impeachment requires 2/3rds of the house in order to impeach someone.

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    Re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    This would be good to know. Further the breakdown of left/right leaning groups would be even more revealing. One of the impetuses of this audit was a letter from Schumer that referenced a NYT article that questioned the legitimacy of both leans...
    Exactly...more information...like the breakdown of left/right, the number of applications left/right.

    I don't think anybody disagrees that using specific words like "Tea Party" is not what the IRS should be doing but....the IRS is in charge of enforcement of US tax laws and policies. Legislation needs to be passed regarding Citizens United and how it impacts these specific tax exempt corporations. Instead of trying to create some non-existent connection to the President supposedly using the IRS to attack his enemies why doesn't the House do it's job and provide some clarfication to the IRS.
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    Re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    I seem to recall that impeachment requires 2/3rds of the house in order to impeach someone.
    The house would easily vote 2/3rds to impeach Obama.

    Hell, many democrats would vote to impeach Obama because they don't have a choice. They're not going to destroy their political careers defending Obama on these scandals, which by the way are getting worse everyday.

    These scandals are beyond the typical representatives pay grade and anyone who attempts to take Obama's side will go down with the ship - and they know that.

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    Re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    The republicans don't have the balls to impeach Obama despite the fact they
    could have this clown out of office before the end of the year.

    I suppose the better question to ask is: do we really want "crazy" Joe Biden to finish Obamy's term?
    It has nothing to do with impeachment. It's about holding Politicians responsible for their crimes.

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    Re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    It has nothing to do with impeachment. It's about holding Politicians responsible for their crimes.
    Impeachment is holding a politician responsible for their crime.

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    Re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    The only problem with impeaching Obama is that he will never get in front of a committee or take the stand, because he knows everything he says is bull**** and he has no desire to get himself caught up in a perjury scandal next.

    I'd give my left nut to see him on the stand tho. He's the type that would answer blunt questions in riddles.

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