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    Re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    Ehh not quite sure on that. I'm a democrat and I payed a higher effective tax rate then Mitt Romney did. I know the majority of my co-workers did as well, it was quite the fiasco around election time.
    Do you also make most of your money from capital gains?

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    Re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post

    Conservative groups made up only a third of the targeted groups.
    i would like to correct that statement. conservative groups made up one third of groups that was investigated, all groups that apply for 501 status are investigated, Tea Party groups where targeted for extra scrutiny, they was singled out by using conservative buzz words

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    Re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    As I said, I don't condone it, I would like to point out though that the majority of this occurred under a Bush appointed commissioner.
    How is that relevant?

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    Re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I give you credit then. Most are not like you.
    Deferring to Bush on this subject seems like you are Ok with what the Obama administration did here.

    Are you outraged over this?

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    Re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    nyt, from the op:



    lisa myers, nbc news, on coffee joe this morning:



    NBC: Why Did IRS Mislead Congress For An Entire Year? | RealClearPolitics

    yesterday the prevaricating potus was asked by bloomberg news...

    he could NOT state unequivocally that he didn't know about the criminal behavior that was going on in this irs



    U.S.-Turkey Relations - C-SPAN Video Library

    moments later he added: "in terms of the white house and reporting, i think that, you know, you've gotten that information from mr carney and others... you know, i, i promise you this---the minute I [emphasis his] found out about it then my main focus is making sure that we get the thing fixed"

    politico:



    Obama pushes back on IRS, AP, Benghazi - Jennifer Epstein - POLITICO.com

    which is all pretty ugly and all, y'all...

    except what you don't seem quite yet to be appreciating is we've only just begun

    irs hearings and headlines are going to be a permanent part of your little dp experience into perpetuity

    we're gonna subpoena, we're gonna depose, we're gonna go special prosecutor

    and sander levin aint gonna be able to say a word against us

    listen to max trainwreck baucus (do you hate HIM yet?)



    Democrat Baucus warns: More to come out on IRS scandal | WashingtonExaminer.com

    we've already learned quite a lot (which you can't for a whit refute---tho you'll continue to talk, it's what you do...)

    1. nyt: "obama admin knew of irs scandal 5 months before election"

    2. politico: "he wouldn't say definitively that the white house was unaware of the targeting before then [april 22]"

    stay tuned
    Do you find it odd that the POTUS is on a need to know basis in his own White House and he didn't need to know about this?

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    Re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    I still don't see the problem with anything the IRS did.
    They were suspicious of and investigated political groups whose main platform is to stop all taxes.
    If anyone is going to defraud the government on their tax activities it would be the TEA Party.
    I believe that anyone belonging to any TEA Party organization should automatically be audited.
    Would you be OK if you applied for a local business license and because the governemnt employee didn't like something about you or your propossed business shelves your application?

    You never receive an answer even though you have spent thousands and thousands of dollars setting up the business and renting a location.

    Would that be OK With you?

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    Re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    There is no evidence to support this assertion. It may be true, but the OIG report went out of its way to indicate that there doesn't appear to be an indication of political bias.

    What we know is that the there were 298 groups targeted for political scrutiny. 201 were correctly targeted, 91 were targeted but should not have been and 144 weren't targeted but should have been.

    Also, we know that 1/3 of the 298 groups were conservative groups. You can't say there was bias until you know the number of conservative groups which should have been targeted and the number of conservative groups which were incorrectly targeted..
    When one side is heavily scrutinized and the other side is not, that's political bias regardless of what the OIG may have said. If all the white applicants to a country club were accepted for membership and all the black applicants were rejected, that would be taken as discrimination regardless of whether the local county judge deemed it so.

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    Re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Same with Obama then. Just saying doesn't make it so.
    Fair enough. I don't hate BHO. I just think he's a poor POTUS.
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    Re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I am not attempting to exonerate the IRS, I am simply saying the Democrats got letters as well. As for the numbers, maybe the Right abused the 501 c(4) tax code the most. Somebody either Congress or the IRS needs to take the ambiguity out of the code so it's fair for everyone.
    How could the right abuse the code if the applications were never approved?

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    Re: Republicans Expand I.R.S. Inquiry, With Eye on White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    How could the right abuse the code if the applications were never approved?
    Huh? By requesting the 501 c(4) tax code and information on the application.

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