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    Re: Issa's Benghazi narrative falling apart

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    It all happened. Not my problem you refuse to accept reality.

    This thread and now this push by The Left to counter Benghazi is laughably pathetic. No emails were edited. A summary was given that was consistent with the emails. Somehow this is a massive scandal that has liberals screeching like Harpies, but 4 murdered Americans (including an ambassador) whose deaths could have prevented and the FACT that their grieving families were lied to and misled is "nothing". Americans fighting to protect and save their own (against stand down orders) left to die without any help from the Obama Administration is "not a scandal" to the Obama cultists.

    The real question is how do you sleep at night supporting and defending such corruption and dishonesty tererun? Just curious

    Is Libya now safe? What is the overall picture? Many people are still dying in violnece in Libya. What is the Answer to end the violence?

    What are the aims of those in Libya killing others? What was the message that the terrorists, who killed four Americans in Benghazi, were trying to give to the US? The West?

    The Libyan government is supposed to protect embassies and consulates.

    US ambassadors and State Deparment workers need to meet with Libyans to write and propose aid packages.

    The US CIA needs secret sources to give accurate information on the violence in Libya. The Anti-West feelings in Libya is probably getting those who help the US CIA, in danger.

    Secrecy is needed to effectively protect sources ion Libya. How can you have secrecy, if Congress is making all the E-mails public?

    The more informatnion made public, the less protection for US sources in Libya. Obama should have just said this stuff should be secret, to protect the sources,

    Who is keeping tack of the number of our sources that are getting targeted? How many Libyans are getting klled by Terrorists? What are the motivations for the varous groups of terrorsts in Libya?


    "The post-Gaddafi transitional government based in Tripoli exerts scant authority over much of the country.

    The latest violence comes days after the US and Britain withdrew some staff from their embassies in the Libyan capital, citing security concerns over a flare-up between armed groups and the authorities.

    The fighters, mostly former rebels who helped topple Gaddafi, had surrounded the foreign and justice ministries to press for a vote in the National Assembly barring former officials of his regime from holding government jobs.

    They lifted the siege on Sunday, ending a two-week standoff, days after the vote was passed by the General National Congress and a pledge by Ali Zeidan, the prime minister, to reshuffle the cabinet soon."
    Deadly car bombing hits Libya's Benghazi - Africa - Al Jazeera English

    Google: Libyan Deaths 2013

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    What is the answer for Libya?






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    Re: Issa's Benghazi narrative falling apart

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I think we are being led on a wild goose chase at this point....Not only do we need to know who ordered "stand down", but what were they in Benghazi for that day in the first place? Can anyone say arms running? And better yet, who's bird brained idea was it to "Normalize" security for that region of Libya?

    So apparently the Terrorists who committted the attack on Americans in Benghazi were Right Wing Libyan Islamists, who are trying to score political points for thier cause, by blowing up Americans.


    "In the early days of the revolution some of them claimed that fighting Qaddafi was un-Islamic and conveniently issued a fatwa demanding full obedience to the ruler. This is Libya’s extreme right. And, while much is still uncertain, Tuesday’s attack appears to have been their attempt to escalate a strategy they have employed ever since the Libyan revolution overthrew Colonel Qaddafi’s dictatorship. They see in these days, in which the new Libya and its young institutions are still fragile, an opportunity to grab power. They want to exploit the impatient resentments of young people in particular in order to disrupt progress and the development of democratic institutions.

    Even though they appear to be well funded from abroad and capable of ruthless acts of violence against Libyans and foreigners, these groups have so far failed to gain widespread support. In fact, the opposite: their actions have alienated most Libyans."


    What Was Really Behind the Consulate Attack in Libya? : The New Yorker



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    Re: Issa's Benghazi narrative falling apart

    Quote Originally Posted by radioman View Post
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    Well....I must defend my political opponent, Jack Hays, on this one.
    We're all just opinionating here.
    The majority of links are from partisan sites.
    One can always find some sort of link--credible, or not-- to support an opinion.
    If sweet, naïve Jack wants to believe Issa is a fact-finding crusader for the truth....so be it.
    Very true. You may be vulnerable if you post links because you tie yourself to that link's credibility. But if you state your opinion as fact and never support it... that is no argument. There are people on forums that often take the tact of playing the never-ending refutor. Then just say "it can't be done" or "no it isn't" which is the lazy path. And one where you don't need links. He's chosen that path. And when he tries to take a stance he NEVER backs it up. Then of course he claims to be on level with Aristotle. lol

    Even the old philosophers needed history to back them up. He has none of these.
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    Re: Issa's Benghazi narrative falling apart

    So Glenn Beck used his website theBlaze to say that the administration lied about calling Benghazi a act of terrorism. He called it an act of terror so this boils down to Glenn Beck, that WP guy and you whining about the differences between saying "Act of Terror" and "Act of Terrorism." Who gives a rats ass other than the after-birthers?
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    Re: Issa's Benghazi narrative falling apart

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Very true. You may be vulnerable if you post links because you tie yourself to that link's credibility. But if you state your opinion as fact and never support it... that is no argument. There are people on forums that often take the tact of playing the never-ending refutor. Then just say "it can't be done" or "no it isn't" which is the lazy path. And one where you don't need links. He's chosen that path. And when he tries to take a stance he NEVER backs it up. Then of course he claims to be on level with Aristotle. lol
    Even the old philosophers needed history to back them up. He has none of these.
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    Re: Issa's Benghazi narrative falling apart

    ABC’s Jonathan Karl regrets that he was caught lying about Benghazi

    Karl’s story purported to “prove” that the White House had made partisan hay with the Benghazi talking points in those first few days after the deadly attack on our consultate in Libya. In fact, Karl’s story, we now know, was a lie, fabricated by congressional Republicans who are out to get President Obama, and aided by Karl having intentionally misled ABC’s audience in his reporting on the matter.


    You got nothing after-birthers... but keep fishing. Maybe eventually you'll trip across a stained blue dress or something.
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    Re: Issa's Benghazi narrative falling apart

    Quote Originally Posted by radioman View Post
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    Maybe Jack was comparing himself to Aristotle Onassis?
    perhaps... lol

    With links I'll often search a story and try to find a link to Fox or some conservative source. That way they are backed into a corner where they can't just dismiss the source so easily.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Issa's Benghazi narrative falling apart

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    ABC’s Jonathan Karl regrets that he was caught lying about Benghazi

    Karl’s story purported to “prove” that the White House had made partisan hay with the Benghazi talking points in those first few days after the deadly attack on our consultate in Libya. In fact, Karl’s story, we now know, was a lie, fabricated by congressional Republicans who are out to get President Obama, and aided by Karl having intentionally misled ABC’s audience in his reporting on the matter.


    You got nothing after-birthers... but keep fishing. Maybe eventually you'll trip across a stained blue dress or something.
    ON THE SAME PAGE no less:

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Very true. You may be vulnerable if you post links because you tie yourself to that link's credibility.
    you used a blog site...?

    vulnerable indeed...
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    Re: Issa's Benghazi narrative falling apart

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    ABC’s Jonathan Karl regrets that he was caught lying about Benghazi

    Karl’s story purported to “prove” that the White House had made partisan hay with the Benghazi talking points in those first few days after the deadly attack on our consultate in Libya. In fact, Karl’s story, we now know, was a lie, fabricated by congressional Republicans who are out to get President Obama, and aided by Karl having intentionally misled ABC’s audience in his reporting on the matter.


    You got nothing after-birthers... but keep fishing. Maybe eventually you'll trip across a stained blue dress or something.
    But really consider (from another thread):

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    ... Since Jay Carney stated that congressmen could view and take notes but not copy or photograph the emails:

    Would 'taking notes' on an email verbatim constitute 'copy' (which was forbidden)?

    If yes, did the GOP have any other choice but paraphrase the emails? And having 'paraphrased' did they have any other choice but furnish this to Karl? Further, IF they had released the email's text verbatim wouldn't they be under scrutiny for violating there 'no copy rule'?

    If no, then why didn't the WH just release the emails during the Brenan confirmation? I mean there out now what's the difference between then and now?
    reference:
    Press Briefing by Press Secretary Jay Carney, 05/10/2013 | The White House
    Press Briefing by Press Secretary Jay Carney, 05/10/2013-
    Q Since you bring it up, why were those emails provided in a read-only fashion?
    MR. CARNEY: It is, I think, a standard procedure for administrations of both parties, going back decades, that internal deliberations are generally protected -- is generally protected information that is not something that is regularly shared with Congress, and then that’s -- to allow for a deliberative process in the executive branch. In this case, to answer just these concerns that members of Congress had, particularly Republican members of Congress, that step was taken and provided. And they were able to review all of these emails, which they have, of course, now leaked to reporters, but they were able to review all of these emails for as long as they wanted, take extensive notes if they chose to.
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    Re: Issa's Benghazi narrative falling apart

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
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    you used a blog site...?

    vulnerable indeed...
    Links are fair game. It was a blog and blogs are a weak source. But dude from ABC did flip on his own story because the GOP lied to him and he was too lacking in journalistic integrity to have verified his sources.


    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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