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    Re: Issa's Benghazi narrative falling apart

    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    rice knowingly lied on the talk shows.

    we are looking for the person(s) who directed that lie and their motivations.
    I think we are being led on a wild goose chase at this point....Not only do we need to know who ordered "stand down", but what were they in Benghazi for that day in the first place? Can anyone say arms running? And better yet, who's bird brained idea was it to "Normalize" security for that region of Libya?
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    Re: Issa's Benghazi narrative falling apart

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I think we are being led on a wild goose chase at this point....Not only do we need to know who ordered "stand down", but what were they in Benghazi for that day in the first place? Can anyone say arms running? And better yet, who's bird brained idea was it to "Normalize" security for that region of Libya?
    misdirection is one of the WH's best tactics when it comes to dealing with situations that put a bad light on them.
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    Re: Issa's Benghazi narrative falling apart

    the defense as of today is so thin, one tremor and the whole structure collapses

    as in, why would ben rhodes, obama's counterterrorism adviser and brother of cbs new president david, send an email to jake tapper, formerly abc, now cnn, essentially trying to show that the entire summaries of the talking-points email chain released by evil darrell issa, which was used by jonathan karl and everyone else to begin their analyses, was somehow twisted outta context or even outright deception

    The upshot here is that while ABC reporter Jon Karl's account of the email suggests Rhodes had voiced concern over the State Dept.'s suggested edits to the talking points, the full email obtained by Tapper suggests he did not single out the State Dept. and merely wanted to address the concerns of everyone involved in the editing process.

    But ABC News says the new Rhodes email is not necessarily at odds with its initial report, which -- as Karl stated at the time -- was based on "summaries" of White House and State Department emails. (The piece was certainly lacking for clarity; see Update below.)

    "Assuming the email reported by CNN is accurate, it is consistent with the summary quoted by Jon Karl," Jeffrey Schneider, the senior vice president and spokesman for ABC News, told POLITICO.

    The new email doesn't change the fact that the White House and State Dept. were involved in the revision process, nor that the State Dept. voiced specific concerns about references to terror. Indeed, it doesn't even prove that Rhodes wasn't concerned about the State Dept.'s concerns about "terror."

    So what's going on here? Tapper's "U.S. government source" is likely drawing attention to the discrepancy between Karl's summary of the email and the actual content of the email in order to discredit ABC's report and Karl's sources. Indeed, on Tuesday afternoon the White House accused congressional Republicans of fabricating the emails cited in Karl's report.

    One thing you'll learn if you study political communications: Nothing seems to work so well as using one small error in a report to discredit the entire report. CNN's "U.S. government source" must be overjoyed that Tapper used the word "inaccurate" four times** when referring to a report that is, for the most part, accurate.

    CNN has since removed three of the four uses of the word "inaccurate" from its report.
    The Benghazi revisions, revisited - POLITICO.com

    jonathan karl offers himself a rather lengthy account of standing by his story, open the link and read it, calling in conclusion for this woebegone white house to come clean by releasing ALL the emails

    karl's not alone:

    Chuck Todd: "Attention White House, Release All The E-Mails" | RealClearPolitics

    Video: Angus King: Release Benghazi emails - POLITICO.com

    you look at all that objectively and you can come to no other conclusion than the defense, at least as of this morning, has got squat

    why, why would it be, how could it be that the president of the declining states of amercia could have got himself so far into squat

    oh well, what difference does it make, it was a long time ago, the ambassador knew what he was getting into, death is part of life

    however, just wednesday the waylaid white house released 100 select pages of email chain, you'd think to bolster their tremulous house of cards---but that too badly backfired

    newly released messages included:

    ""the white house cleared quickly but state had major concerns"

    "serious concerns about arming members of congress'

    'why do we want the hill fingering ansar al sharia"

    "could be abused by members to beat the state dept for not paying attention to warnings"

    "will come back to us at podium"

    victoria nuland, foggy bottom's equivalent of jay carney, hillary clinton's press spokesperson (what do you think is her exact expertise): "after conversation with [name redacted] serious concerns"

    nuland: changes so far "didn't resolve all my issues or those of my building leadership"

    nuland referred to "offline communications"

    "john brennan will have edits"

    "talk to tommy, we can have edits"

    "state dept had major reservations with much or most of the document, we revised the document with their concerns in mind"

    The Benghazi Emails: Talking Points Changed at State Dept.'s Request - ABC News

    USAToday: Benghazi emails unleash flood of new questions
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    Re: Issa's Benghazi narrative falling apart

    Despite the centrality of the YouTube video to the administration’s public discussion of Benghazi, it goes virtually unmentioned in the nearly 100 pages of emails between the nation’s top intelligence and Obama administration officials as they reshaped the talking points provided by the CIA. The film trailer is included as part of a list on the first page of the documents and again at the very end, in the subject line about a meeting of high-ranking officials on Saturday morning: “SVTS [Secure Video Teleconferencing System] on Movie Protests/Violence.”

    As the top U.S. officials discussed what to include in the talking points that would shape their case to the country on the attacks in Benghazi, the video was absent. Whose idea was it to make it the centerpiece? The Obama administration still has a lot of explaining to do.
    What About the Video? | The Weekly Standard

    language about "spontaneous demonstrations" which turned out not to be true remained, while references to "islamic extremists with ties to al qaeda" subsequently proved accurate were removed

    that's backwards

    and the video, which became the centerpiece of the entire white house team's explanation (rice, carney, obama, hillary, biden) wasn't even discussed until that completely undocumented, black box of a saturday morning deputies meeting in the white house hosted by ben rhodes brother of the cbs president

    who decided to promote the video?

    and why?

    whose narrative is falling apart, again?

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    Re: Issa's Benghazi narrative falling apart

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    usatoday yesterday:

    Benghazi emails released by the White House unleash flood of questions



    usatoday, huh?

    i couldn't have written it better myself

    worry
    You do realize that this was the resut of Republicans leaking falsified emails to the press.

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    Re: Issa's Benghazi narrative falling apart

    You do realize
    LOL!

    The Benghazi revisions, revisited - POLITICO.com

    if you linked it would force you to know what you're talking about

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    Re: Issa's Benghazi narrative falling apart

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    In case you missed it they just found out that none of that happened and it was all a republican lie.

    Your selective blindness is awesome.
    It all happened. Not my problem you refuse to accept reality.

    This thread and now this push by The Left to counter Benghazi is laughably pathetic. No emails were edited. A summary was given that was consistent with the emails. Somehow this is a massive scandal that has liberals screeching like Harpies, but 4 murdered Americans (including an ambassador) whose deaths could have prevented and the FACT that their grieving families were lied to and misled is "nothing". Americans fighting to protect and save their own (against stand down orders) left to die without any help from the Obama Administration is "not a scandal" to the Obama cultists.

    The real question is how do you sleep at night supporting and defending such corruption and dishonesty tererun? Just curious

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    Re: Issa's Benghazi narrative falling apart

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    You do realize that this was the resut of Republicans leaking falsified emails to the press.
    Republicans leaked falsified emails.
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    Re: Issa's Benghazi narrative falling apart

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    In case you missed it they just found out that none of that happened and it was all a republican lie.

    Your selective blindness is awesome.
    This has stopped being a conversation on politics and has become one of religion.

    The Obamaists just want to continue believing, and no amount of facts can dissuade them..

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    Re: Issa's Benghazi narrative falling apart

    As with repubLies and Oids

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