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    Re: Men who are physically strong are more likely to have right wing political views

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    I was being sarcastic cuz this study is stupid as hell
    Appeal to ridicule, a challenging criticism to refute... but I'll try.

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    Re: Men who are physically strong are more likely to have right wing political views

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I don't think they are. But cardio freaks can almost always best a muscle-head at anyting physical other than pushing a weight. Their bodies are simply built to do more.




    I don't despise meatheads. I just think that very often the more muscles they put on, the more they tend to look down on those without the same meaty goals as themselves. You don't often see cardio freaks being condescending about running a marathon but you could hang out with meat-heads and hear endless talk of "pencil-necks" and how they could beat up someone blah blah blah. Where their world vision is based on who they are and are not bigger than. And that instant respect goes towards those who can push X amount of weight... (which just so happens to be pretty much the whole gist of the originiation of this thread).

    So if it sounds like I'm being condescending the other way around... I guess turn-about is fair play.
    What about a sled pulling or tire flipping contest? How about sprinting?

    And once again, you're just spitting out your opinion. You're creating a false dichotomy.

    Is there a subculture of steroid using meatheads who look down on everyone who isn't a steroid using meathead? Sure. But I think you're letting that image in your head cause you to stereotype every other person who goes to the gym to lift weights into the same category. I've met some pretty strong dudes who are ridiculously athletic at just about everything and anything. The strong part doesn't take away from it, it makes them better at those other activities. There is a reason why many sprinters have squats of over 500 pounds, if not more. Its training them to be more explosive, and they use that training and apply it to the track in order to run faster times.

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    Re: Men who are physically strong are more likely to have right wing political views

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    I was being sarcastic cuz this study is stupid as hell
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    Re: Men who are physically strong are more likely to have right wing political views

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    What about a sled pulling or tire flipping contest? How about sprinting?

    And once again, you're just spitting out your opinion. You're creating a false dichotomy.

    Is there a subculture of steroid using meatheads who look down on everyone who isn't a steroid using meathead? Sure. But I think you're letting that image in your head cause you to stereotype every other person who goes to the gym to lift weights into the same category. I've met some pretty strong dudes who are ridiculously athletic at just about everything and anything. The strong part doesn't take away from it, it makes them better at those other activities. There is a reason why many sprinters have squats of over 500 pounds, if not more. Its training them to be more explosive, and they use that training and apply it to the track in order to run faster times.
    I think you are blurring my position. My position is cardio & cardio plus weights vs weights only. Yeah I'd put my guys up against the weights only guys every day of the week and on Sunday. I've said multiple times even in the posts of mine you've quoted that pretty much weights AND cardio are the shyte. These guys you mentioned are designing their bodies to peform tasks. Not designing their bodies to bulk to a point where one leg has to walk around the other leg to move the whole body forward. Those bodies aren't going to sprint very well at all.
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    Re: Men who are physically strong are more likely to have right wing political views

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    ReformCollege... Case and point about an egotistically misaligned world view. Read this guy's posts in this thread.
    Sigh. Typical liberal dodge.

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    Re: Men who are physically strong are more likely to have right wing political views

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    Sigh. Typical liberal dodge.
    ? what did I dodge?
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    Re: Men who are physically strong are more likely to have right wing political views

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I think you are blurring my position. My position is cardio & cardio plus weights vs weights only. Yeah I'd put my guys up against the weights only guys every day of the week and on Sunday. I've said multiple times even in the posts of mine you've quoted that pretty much weights AND cardio are the shyte. These guys you mentioned are designing their bodies to peform tasks. Not designing their bodies to bulk to a point where one leg has to walk around the other leg to move the whole body forward.
    I don't recall this ever being a "this vs. that" on the subject. Cardio and weightlifting are just tools in the shed to help you do whatever you want to do. One goal isn't more important or "better" then the other in any way. You're crying back and forth about how condescending these imaginary meat-heads are, yet all I'm hearing is you being the condescending asshole about people who want to lift weights. One can lift weights and be strong (really strong) without being this prototypical useless meat-head that you are so butthurt over.

    I'll say this, I generally look down on anyone who wants to use performance enhancing drugs out of pure vanity. But this is the definition of a strawman, you're arguing against something that no one is in favor of.

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    Re: Men who are physically strong are more likely to have right wing political views

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    ? what did I dodge?
    You attribute it to some "misaligned world view" that I must have rather then try to take my arguments head on. Its a fallacy and a dodge.

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    Re: Men who are physically strong are more likely to have right wing political views

    Well duh....

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    Re: Men who are physically strong are more likely to have right wing political views

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I don't think they are. But cardio freaks can almost always best a muscle-head at anyting physical other than pushing a weight. Their bodies are simply built to do more.




    I don't despise meatheads. I just think that very often the more muscles they put on, the more they tend to look down on those without the same meaty goals as themselves. You don't often see cardio freaks being condescending about running a marathon but you could hang out with meat-heads and hear endless talk of "pencil-necks" and how they could beat up someone blah blah blah. Where their world vision is based on who they are and are not bigger than. And that instant respect goes towards those who can push X amount of weight... (which just so happens to be pretty much the whole gist of the originiation of this thread).

    So if it sounds like I'm being condescending the other way around... I guess turn-about is fair play.
    I was genetically predisposed to be a big guy, as most men on my fathers side exceed 6'4" and 250 lbs. I had a uncle who WAS 6'8'' ( Father's younger Brother who passed away 3 years ago ) and over 400 pounds easy. When I came out of High School after playing football for 6 years straight I was 6'7", 280 and could bench press 390 pounds. And no, I never took steroids.

    He use to irritate the crap out of me when I was a kid ( 9-10 years old ) , wrestling, fighting and such, and I would try with everything I had to just move him 3 inches off of the spot he was occupying or to hit him hard enough to get a reaction out of him other than him laughing at my attempts.. No dice, as it was analogous to attacking a fire engine.

    He was a Offensive linemen in College and until his death was built like a brick wall. He was also one of the nicest guys Iv'e ever known and knowing that I would eventually reach a height and weight and strength comparable to his, he taught me never to use my size as asset, because first my size was going to be a given, and second it was a cheap way to go through life intimidating those that I either disliked or were in competition in.

    There was never any need to throw my weight around and since I can remember I have gone out of my way to make sure people judge me by my character and intelligence not my size. It was never my fault I was built like this as it runs in my family, ( my oldest is in the navy 6'7'', a slim 240 ).

    We are also predisposed to knee and hip problems because of our height, and heart problems, That's what killed my uncle.


    I don't see any direct correlation to a political ideology and someone's size.
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