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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    This Kabuki dance you keep dragging us through has gone from the really ridiculous to super absurd...

    Everyone reading these discussions [no longer a debate, you apparently got “nuthin” to argue ] must be as weary as I of these constant banal, redundant and repetitive inanities you keep foisting upon us. And then foisting on us yet again, adding nothing new but a few caustic yet clumsy jibes.

    You see, we can all observe as you make foolishly bizarre statements that you simply cannot back up…then, for some reason, re-advertise this inadequacy, reiterating this lack of knowledge…why? I am savvy enough to know not to make such similarly silly statements.

    How many times now, 5, maybe six, that I have informed and re-informed you that the Constitution is silent on both “born persons” and “unborn persons”?

    Let me ask, just so I can get an idea, just how many times will it take telling you THAT FACT until you actually think about it, reflect and actually realize that… I mean, until you get it?

    Then the part of the dance where I tell you that I did not say anything about unborn persons in the Constitution where you say it does, but can never point this out [ or anything else out when you speak of the Constitution ]... then I re-inform you that the Constitution, through the 9th and 10th Amendments allows we the people to what needs be done, whether it be born or unborn, should we decide to do so. Then you will try to bring up, again, that SCOTUS is the Constitution, that the Constitution allows for the Supreme Court judicial review, which it doesn't but at the same time we do know of the tradition established with the case of Marbury v Madison...blah blah blah...

    Or… maybe the better question…Will this fairly simple concept, Constitution being silent on the issue, ever sink in? Seems pretty simple to the rest of us…do you really not understand the concept? I mean, seems reasonable to assume that this has gone far beyond the point where one can utilize simple naive ignorance of the Constitution… to where one is actually just being obstinate… but why? Cannot accept reality?

    Do you have anything new to add? Have anything that will prove any, ANY, of your assertions? If not, do us all a favor...
    Gee, it sure took you a lot of words to say "The constitution doesn't say anything about the govt protecting the rights of the unborn"
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    I was just asking a question, but thank you for identifying those against the murder of the innocent and those who are for life as being the morally superior... another Freudian slip, eh?
    When will those with most perverted perception of morality stop trying to enslave women by banning abortion?

    Just askin'
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    I was eleven years old when the Thalidmine babies made headlines in the USA.
    A US news reporter had taken the drug Thalidomine early in her pregnancy.
    News reports surfaced in Europe that a number of babies were being born without arms or legs, sometimes all the limbs were affected and that the cause was the Thalidomine drug they had taken during pregnancy.
    The news reporter wanted an abortion and pleaded for a legal abortion in the USA.
    She was denied and eventually went to Sweden where she had her abortion.
    I thought it horrible that The United States was so backwards with their laws they would even allow abortions in these therapeutic type cases.

    I cried for the women and their babies that were affected by the Thalidomine drug.
    I cried for the woman in the USA who could not have a legal abortion in their country .

    I was a young married woman and the mother to a planned baby
    when the Surpreme Court ruled 7 to 2 in favor of legal early abortions in the United States.
    I was so happy about the Roe vs Wade decision.

    Finally women in the USA were allowed to be first class citizens and were granted the right to bodily soverenity.
    I, too, remembered reading with sadness of the Thalidomide babies... but that was about 10,000 babies, not anywhere near the 50 million since Roe that have been deprived of life...and at the same time most of these children would probably rather have been born than just have that right, even a potentially diminished form of that right, just absolutely and forever taken from them. There are apparently around 6000 so afflicted still alive today, over 50 years later... the majority did not take their own lives... and so must be assumed to have gotten at least some pleasure out of their life.

    And here is a small list of notables from Wikipedia who were afflicted with this...and so they went on to overcome...


    Mat Fraser, musician, actor and performance artist born with phocomelia of both arms

    Alvin Law, radio broadcaster, born without arms

    Louise Medus Mansell, daughter of David Mason, campaigner for increased compensation for thalidomide children, born with no arms or legs

    Tony Meléndez, award-winning singer and guitarist who plays with his feet and recognized by Pope John Paul II and U.S. President Ronald Reagan

    Thomas Quasthoff, an internationally acclaimed bass-baritone, who describes himself: "1.34 meters tall, short arms, seven fingers — four right, three left — large, relatively well-formed head, brown eyes, distinctive lips; profession: singer"

    Niko von Glasow produced a documentary called Nobody's Perfect, based on the lives of 12 people affected by the drug, which was released in 2008

    Terry Wiles, born with phocomelia of both arms and legs, has become known internationally through the television drama On Giant's Shoulders and the best-selling book of the same name

    Why not let individuals make their own decisions about whether their life is worth living?

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Gee, it sure took you a lot of words to say "The constitution doesn't say anything about the govt protecting the rights of the unborn"
    Still nothing you can factually cite and of course, except for something coarse, nothing new from you... work completed from this side, thanks. Let me know if you stumble on something new or provable.

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    They have to be present in this world to speak for themselves.

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    When will those with most perverted perception of morality stop trying to enslave women by banning abortion?

    Just askin'
    Already been accomplished, never happened. Women enslave themselves. When will you stop advocating for legal murder, Mao style?

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Already been accomplished, never happened. Women enslave themselves. When will you stop advocating for legal murder, Mao style?
    Already accomplished?

    In what fantasy world has abortion been banned?
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Already accomplished?

    In what fantasy world has abortion been banned?
    Never said that...but ...

    Sorry, you know the rules, something new or something provable...good luck.

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    When will those with most perverted perception of morality stop trying to enslave women by banning abortion?

    Just askin'
    I'd say those in favor of killing children, even after birth, labeling it "post birth" abortion, have absolutely NO standing to judge anything moral, or not.

    Just sayin'
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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Strucker View Post
    It is completely outrageous. It is pretty baldly stating that a murder charge can be laid based solely on a woman's right to choose.
    It's murder only if mom says it is.

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