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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Murder is illegal. Abortion is not.
    Exactly.
    Abortion is legal.
    A fetus does not have a right to life.
    The Supreme Court rejected a " right to life argument" when they made the Roe vs. Wade decision.
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Murder is illegal. Abortion is not.
    I am sure that nuanced distinction about murder and its illegality meant a lot to the Jews being mass "legally killed" under the Nazi regime. The Nazi's legally killed 6 million Jews and they are regarded as near devils. How should we regard those who, just in the USA, have "legally" killed over 50 million? Nearly 10 times as many as the obscene Nazis... nice crowd to be hanging with...

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Exactly.
    Abortion is legal.
    A fetus does not have a right to life.
    The Supreme Court rejected a " right to life argument" when they made the Roe vs. Wade decision.
    Roe was long ago... oh, and absolutely wrong which suits it as the ruling really is also unconstitutional.

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    And SCOTUS determined that the govt's power to protect rights did not apply to the unborn.

    The rests of your post is just more of you repeating your nonsensical claims as if they were fact.
    Give me the quote where the Supreme Court expressly, or even obliquely, states that the government's power to protect rights does not apply to the unborn at any stage.

    The rest of my post would require you to do something you simply cannot do, which is prove me wrong... on anything.

    or....

    it would require you to do something you seemingly cannot do, which is admit you are completely and utterly wrong. Looking back I do not think there is a SINGLE point where you have won the argument. Not even one single point.

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Roe was long ago... oh, and absolutely wrong which suits it as the ruling really is also unconstitutional.
    Roe has been around for 40 years and the right to privacy regarding reproductivity has been around 48 years and counting.
    They have been upheld all these years and I have no doubt they will continue to be since they are constitutional.


    By the way the Arizonia 20 week gestation abortion law that was passed in April 2012 was struck down this last week as too restrictive and unconstitutional since Roe vs Wade allows abortions up to viability which is 24 weeks gestation.
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Roe has been around for 40 years and the right to privacy regarding reproductivity has been around 48 years and counting.
    They have been upheld all these years and I have no doubt they will continue to be since they are constitutional.


    By the way the Arizonia 20 week gestation abortion law that was passed in April 2012 was struck down this last week as too restrictive and unconstitutional since Roe vs Wade allows abortions up to viability which is 24 weeks gestation.
    Thanks for sharing on the Arizona gestation thing ... and I would lay a wager with you on Roe being overturned, but do not know how we would ever arrange for me to collect my winnings. For being such a seemingly nice person, you sure have a uncharacteristic coldness towards the most helpless and innocent...

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    When someone is responsible for causing an accident, they are responsible to pay damages to those harmed

    When a woman is responsible for causing a pregnancy, no other person harmed.
    Unless she aborts, which is the willful taking of a human life.

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    I am a nice person.
    I have a lot of love for babies and children.
    I have 4 children who are now grown.
    I also had two miscarriages so I do know the difference between a child and fetus.
    Last edited by minnie616; 05-29-13 at 09:58 PM.
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    I don't think impregnation would be such a religious experience.....................Guess it's easier to "judge" experiences when they're happening to other people.....................
    You mean those experiences that happen to others... like maybe actually being the one that is being aborted? Yeah, I guess it would be easier for some people to judge... or not even think much about it at all?

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    Hi. I would anticipate a catastrophic drop in the birth rate................................
    Well, seeing as the birth canal is much much smaller, it would be far more painful to give birth...I can see men being very very discriminating of who they get pregnant with... like women should be, more used to be.

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