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    re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Strucker View Post
    Just so. Like I said, a serious crime.
    Since when is taking someone's choice away 'a serious crime'? It happens every day.

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    re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    This case does raise the problem of if a woman can abort against the man's wishes, why can't the man abort against the woman's wishes?
    Or why should a man have to pay child support for a baby he didn't want? It seems that the woman has all the power in the decision making process so she should also, following that logic, be the one to pay for the child as well.

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    re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    The guy unlawfully killed a person, that's murder. There's no double standard.
    You're correct, if you believe life begins at conception. If, however, you believe in the pro-choice view that life begins at "viability" then no person was killed, therefore, no murder could have been committed.

    It will be interesting, at least in my view, to see if his defense includes a discussion about when life begins as a basis for determining if the charge of murder is a valid one. A lot could rest on a ruling of that issue.
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    re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It's not a person by law.
    It practically is under the law the guy's being prosecuted with.
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    re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Now thats just odd. How can he be charged with murder for killing a 6 week old unborn child?

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    re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    It practically is under the law the guy's being prosecuted with.
    Yes, but not actually. It's a law in conflict with a SCOTUS ruling since abortion is ruled legal under certain circumstances, under those circumstances the fetus cannot legally be considered a person. Within the time frame that abortion is legal, one should not be able to be charged with murder of the fetus; it's inconsistent.
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    re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    I'm surprised we haven't had many of the usual adamantly pro-choice women chime in on the issue as yet. Perhaps it's girls' night out.
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    re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    The guy unlawfully killed a person, that's murder. There's no double standard.
    The law says that this was not a 'person' who was murdered.

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    re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yes, but not actually. It's a law in conflict with a SCOTUS ruling since abortion is ruled legal under certain circumstances, under those circumstances the fetus cannot legally be considered a person. Within the time frame that abortion is legal, one should not be able to be charged with murder of the fetus; it's inconsistent.
    From my perspective, the real complication is that the guy actually performed an illegal abortion. He used the medication that doctors use when inducing labor within the first 9 weeks of pregnancy to abort the child.
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    re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    From my perspective, the real complication is that the guy actually performed an illegal abortion. He used the medication that doctors use when inducing labor within the first 9 weeks of pregnancy to abort the child.
    If you had been this honest from the start, maybe more people would have humoured your initial premise.
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