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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    Illogical and irrelevant. The situations are not comparable, because when you get into a car accident, you are responsible for the physical and financial harm that you have caused to others as a result of your negligence. You are not responsible for the care and well-being of the hypothetical beings that may or may not come into existence as a result of your decision to drive the car.
    So you are saying we cannot hold the ones who created the baby responsible for that baby's care and well being, so instead we should do like those who get into an accident, hold the creators of the baby responsible for the physical and financial harm done? The premeditated murder aspect, put them on trial, hold them in prison for life or maybe even have them incur a death sentence?

    Wow, how thoughtfully progressive, you are way ahead of your fellows...

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    I have grown weary of all this unremitting dissembling, am no longer playing your silly game...
    I accept your surrender
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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Partial birth abortion is not a CRIME, huh? ...bet that will come as news to many...

    We have taken the first baby steps towards doing away with Roe [ even Roe is against Roe]...now we are growing stronger and certainly bolder all the time, knowing we have right on our side...makes it so easy.

    Then there is the ease with which we can destroy all your old politically correct arguments, along with it discarding the unjust weight that the feminist movement wielded in our society has come to an abrupt end...so it is only a matter of time, as you can tell by your worn out and tattered old abortion anthems, a sing song mush of illogic that people are finally seeing for what it truly is... junk.
    There is no medical procedure called "partial birth abortion"

    And abortion is legal. 100% legal.
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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    So you are saying we cannot hold the ones who created the baby responsible for that baby's care and well being, so instead we should do like those who get into an accident, hold the creators of the baby responsible for the physical and financial harm done? The premeditated murder aspect, put them on trial, hold them in prison for life or maybe even have them incur a death sentence?

    Wow, how thoughtfully progressive, you are way ahead of your fellows...
    Even if the aborted baby wanted to sue, it couldn't because it doesn't have standing.

    And the state can't prosecute because abortion is legal
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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I accept your surrender
    Yeah yeah yeah...

    This would probably be more akin to the World War II strategy adopted in the Pacific theater called the Island Hopping Campaign, with a couple exceptions to the analogy. As opposed to the actual strategy in that campaign, I am just avoiding the least well defended in hopes of finding good verbal battles to be fought elsewhere, on higher grounds, where there may be some actual foundation in support of the contrasting arguments, not some hastily assembled barricade ignoring most weaknesses with an almost unfailingly inadequate, artless camouflaging, the rest with simple bluff and a rather uninhabited bravado. If one listens closely enough, one might almost hear the flailing and faint echos of all the hopelessly screamed "Bonzais" in the wafting waffling backwash of the props as we had already passed, long ago, our own Midway turning point in devastating dive bomber attacks on all value targets with well placed hits all along the various wheelhouses where we did not find a lot of evidence of the necessary command and control.

    Sayonara as they say...

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    There is no medical procedure called "partial birth abortion"

    And abortion is legal. 100% legal.
    Yeah, right...get real.

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Even if the aborted baby wanted to sue, it couldn't because it doesn't have standing.

    And the state can't prosecute because abortion is legal
    Exactly.
    Federal laws can negate state laws without having to actually go to court to overturn the state laws.
    As has been mentioned there are old state or local laws and a few new ones that are not enforceable because they are against a federal law.
    If there is conflict between a federal law and a state law...the federal law is the one enforced.
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    There is no medical procedure called "partial birth abortion"

    And abortion is legal. 100% legal.
    So I guess Kermit Gosnell was convicted, and will spend life in prison for something he did that was legal?
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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So I guess Kermit Gosnell was convicted, and will spend life in prison for something he did that was legal?
    He was convicted for the murders of born babies ...
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Your argument fails when you realize except in very rare cases the woman wasn't forced to get pregnant. There are consequences to personal actions/choices.
    You want her forced to be pregnant. Your's is the message of basically all pro-life men who, at their core reasoning, always include their view of punishment of foul women for the sin of having sex.

    Your "very" rare is not accurate either.

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