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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    That's a lie, and an easily provable one to boot....

    I asked....




    Now notice that I highlighted the pertinent part of the question for you, so that you can follow along...No where did I ask if you would have and abortion of any kind, as I believe you to be a male, and know that would be impossible. I instead asked a totally different question based on your own wording in a response to another, which was whether or not you are in favor, or support late term, and using your own words printed here for everyone to see, "post birth"....Now, I have my own guess, but rather than play your games, I will continue to ask you to answer the question asked, and not the one you want to play games with...
    I answered the question.

    But you can keep asking it if you like
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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    I know just exactly what you mean by that, its just like saying:

    After all, the fact that many bank robbers rob banks should have clued you in to the fact that their having robbed banks was not at all an agreement for them to ever actually have to go to jail.

    Jeesh… I mean, just how is it that one cannot see the logic/truth of that? Now common sense wise, prudent/practical wise...? Not so much...
    Maybe that explains why criminals don't lock themselves up
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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by vendur View Post
    Lefties, or useful idiots, i don't care which. I'd like to see your proof they weren't lefties. Being appointed by someone means nothing. Your ill-informed opinion is what it is.
    I highly doubt a conservative president would appoint a liberal to the supreme court. YOU are the one who brought up polititical lean, it's up to YOU to prove your contention that they were 'leftys'.

    BTW, a true conservative is prochoice because we want the govt. out of our personal lives as much as possible.

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    OK, please show me where the constitution says that a ZEF is a person.
    How many times do we have to go over this? You can question me, sure, but if I have already given the answer in several different ways, and you just cannot understand the answer for whatever reason, I would recommend getting someone to explain it to you. Simply put, our Constitution is silent, is mute, takes no position on a child in utero unless it is residing in one of the American parents outside the borders of the US of A.

    Dunno if this will help, but I can try...

    Maybe if I said it in Spanish, would that help? Nuestra Constitución no dice nada, es muda, no se pronuncia sobre un niño en el útero.

    ¿Entiendes?

    Now, show me where our Constitution specifically excludes a child in utero from having rights... or, how about just showing me where it explicitly states that only the born have rights? Your choice. You have made both assertions previously... so take your time, but guess what? It will be forever as the Constitution does not address either...

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    How many times do we have to go over this? You can question me, sure, but if I have already given the answer in several different ways, and you just cannot understand the answer for whatever reason, I would recommend getting someone to explain it to you. Simply put, our Constitution is silent, is mute, takes no position on a child in utero unless it is residing in one of the American parents outside the borders of the US of A.

    Dunno if this will help, but I can try...

    Maybe if I said it in Spanish, would that help? Nuestra Constitución no dice nada, es muda, no se pronuncia sobre un niño en el útero.

    ¿Entiendes?

    Now, show me where our Constitution specifically excludes a child in utero from having rights... or, how about just showing me where it explicitly states that only the born have rights? Your choice. You have made both assertions previously... so take your time, but guess what? It will be forever as the Constitution does not address either...
    Where does the constitution say anything about a child in utero in one of it's American parents outside the borders of the US of A

    And I have already proven that the constitution excludes the unborn from "persons".
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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Maybe that explains why criminals don't lock themselves up
    Now...finally... there is some logic for you...good job. Same basic reasoning behind why people who create babies they don't want don't want laws against abortion, either. Those committing the crimes never really want their just punishments, never really want to take responsibility for what they have done. They all want their own form of "get out of jail free card".

    Sorry, that dog don't hunt no more.

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Now...finally... there is some logic for you...good job. Same basic reasoning behind why people who create babies they don't want don't want laws against abortion, either. Those committing the crimes never really want their just punishments, never really want to take responsibility for what they have done. They all want their own form of "get out of jail free card".

    Sorry, that dog don't hunt no more.
    That would make sense if abortion were a crime

    But it's not, so it doesn't
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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    So, let me see, if a person gets into the driver's seat of a car, and knows by driving that there is a possibility of a wreck, but this same person who is driving doesn't explicitly and previously agree to this specific wreck that does, indeed, happen, then he or she is not responsible?
    Illogical and irrelevant. The situations are not comparable, because when you get into a car accident, you are responsible for the physical and financial harm that you have caused to others as a result of your negligence. You are not responsible for the care and well-being of the hypothetical beings that may or may not come into existence as a result of your decision to drive the car.

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Where does the constitution say anything about a child in utero in one of it's American parents outside the borders of the US of A

    And I have already proven that the constitution excludes the unborn from "persons".

    I have grown weary of all this unremitting dissembling, am no longer playing your silly game... you have no real intentions of ever getting at the truth, only the agenda... you have never proven nor will you ever prove that the Constitution excludes the unborn...you would have to get a personally worded Amendment passed to be able to show that...not ever happening.

    Please do not insult the intelligence of the rest of us by now telling us, again, that SCOTUS, which you can look in the encyclopedia as well as the dictionary and determine that SCOTUS and the US Constitution are, indeed, two completely separate and different things, that SCOTUS has thus forever ruled against the unborn, it has actually ruled for the unborn instead ... and I have shown you explicitly using your own article that, in fact, they did not strike down a law from Missouri indicating that life begins at conception. That kinda favors the unborn does it not...it was just rhetorical, you were never gonna answer truthfully a question on that anyhow.


    Gonna need to find someone else to try to ply you worn out old wares on... will need to search to find someone that super gullible though.

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    That would make sense if abortion were a crime

    But it's not, so it doesn't
    Partial birth abortion is not a CRIME, huh? ...bet that will come as news to many...

    We have taken the first baby steps towards doing away with Roe [ even Roe is against Roe]...now we are growing stronger and certainly bolder all the time, knowing we have right on our side...makes it so easy.

    Then there is the ease with which we can destroy all your old politically correct arguments, along with it discarding the unjust weight that the feminist movement wielded in our society has come to an abrupt end...so it is only a matter of time, as you can tell by your worn out and tattered old abortion anthems, a sing song mush of illogic that people are finally seeing for what it truly is... junk.

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