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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I would never have an abortion
    I didn't ask that, answer the question please.
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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I didn't ask that, answer the question please.
    I will never have a late term abortion
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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Totally agree on the fact that DNA does not prove consent, well...at least it doesn't in a good 1% of the cases [ that would be the average of 13,000 rapes and incests that occur out of the average 1 million 250 thousand abortions, planned killings, that occur every year in our country, the US of A. So, to be accurate, lets bump that up to .0104 . 50 million lives taken in this manner since Roe.

    98.96% [ basically 99 percent] of the times the sex was consensual leading up to an abortion. DNA is plenty sufficient to prove paternity…

    So, semantics, both knowing the bottom line…which = DNA is as good/ better than a signature. Of the 100% of the times abortion is bidden/entreated each and every year, 98.96% of the times this sex resulting in a pregnancy is just plain old consensual, as you know including willingness and/or, at minimum, ultimate agreement. We can quibble over the 1percenters later… okay okay, the 1.04%ers. 1% is statistically insignificant… yet should still be dealt with in good faith… and with dignity. That is a discussion worth having even though I leave open the door, but unless logically and morally convinced, will remain intellectually honest in a steadfast support of innocent yet voiceless unborn. It is just the right thing to do. Up to a limited point I can see the other side, but life is the superior right, especially in the 99% of the cases where nobody is forced. Totally unconcerned whether you agree or not, I only appeal to the logical in any event, ideologues generally cannot be swayed in the face of the rational, but the just and the logical can be... and the facts of the matter are there are consequences to actions... and one must accept one's own personal responsibilities...really does not matter one whit what sangha thinks...

    And, tell me...

    What, one should ask, besides a loved one, what is more valuable in life to you than your very own life…??

    And… to just summarily remove that opportunity from someone else...an innocent someone else paying for the bad decisions of others... and so that chance at the most precious thing you own you can simply take in total from another, without their consent? Don’t know about you, but would that not just be considered just toooooo cosmically cruel?

    Law has gotten away from good sense and we, the people, need take it back. Logic and justice should prevail in the law. To a much lesser degree emotion, much lesser. What you call wacky will change real quick to just how its done once we get Roe overturned. Just will be.

    Let me get this straight, you are saying the father of a child bears no responsibility? Now you talk about whacky…


    Hhhmmmm….
    Calling me delusional then adding the 100% accurate partjust classic, sangha… so we can all assume this statement is as factually accurate as all the rest of your 100% accurates have been, wow, what a hoot… thanks, made my day, whew…

    But such the watery justification for using name calling, while at the same time not even attempting high brow? Unsophisticated ad hominems? Having developed the appropriately abundant epidermal material over here, however, one usually need only consider the fountainhead from which the crudities sequentially flow.

    It is your duty to ask or question any claim I have made, so ask away. I have provided many sources and quoted documentation, including the Constitution, the D.O.I., the pertinent portions of UVVA 2004, the pertinent parts of the R v W decision, Merriam as well as other sources for the vocabulary we are using, blah blah blah, etc, etc…and my logic you have yet to even raise a dull spoon to….nor... lest we forget all your myriad factual inaccuracies previously strewn wildly about but nicely placed in the evidence locker of my previous comments.

    If you are just going to want to trade more verbal barbs... well, you'll continue to lose at that as well, soooo...

    I only wish there was a button for BRAVO!!!!!!
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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    "edificational" is not a word

    BWHAAAAA! Now that is funny right there!

    OK, please show me where the constitution says that a ZEF is a person.
    Show us where in the constitution an amendment was passed that was abortion specific.
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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I will never have a late term abortion
    Again, not the question I asked....
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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Again, not the question I asked....
    Yes it is
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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    "edificational" is not a word
    Way behind the cutting edge of the idiolectic coinage frontier as well, huh? Such is life.

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Yes it is
    That's a lie, and an easily provable one to boot....

    I asked....


    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac
    Just a question for sangha....Are you in favor of late term abortion? Or even "post birth"?
    Now notice that I highlighted the pertinent part of the question for you, so that you can follow along...No where did I ask if you would have and abortion of any kind, as I believe you to be a male, and know that would be impossible. I instead asked a totally different question based on your own wording in a response to another, which was whether or not you are in favor, or support late term, and using your own words printed here for everyone to see, "post birth"....Now, I have my own guess, but rather than play your games, I will continue to ask you to answer the question asked, and not the one you want to play games with...
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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    His question was a genuine one. After all, the fact that many women have abortions should have clued you in to the fact that their having sex was not an agreement to not have an abortion.
    I know just exactly what you mean by that, its just like saying:

    After all, the fact that many bank robbers rob banks should have clued you in to the fact that their having robbed banks was not at all an agreement for them to ever actually have to go to jail.

    Jeesh… I mean, just how is it that one cannot see the logic/truth of that? Now common sense wise, prudent/practical wise...? Not so much...

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Way behind the cutting edge of the idiolectic coinage frontier as well, huh? Such is life.
    Well, I will say that you are one of a kind.

    I won't say what kind
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