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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    So is the 13th.
    Despite your side's whining about it, there is no slavery here, unless you consider a contract you willingly, voluntarily agree to up front as being slavery. So, if you believe that a mortgage is slavery, do not sign on the bottom line, if you think pregnancy is slavery, abstain... or take your chances. Voluntary servitude is not covered by the 13th, happy to inform ya...

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Despite your side's whining about it, there is no slavery here, unless you consider a contract you willingly, voluntarily agree to up front as being slavery. So, if you believe that a mortgage is slavery, do not sign on the bottom line, if you think pregnancy is slavery, abstain... or take your chances. Voluntary servitude is not covered by the 13th, happy to inform ya...
    Pregnancy is not a contract, and abortion is still legal

    Woman are not slaves to the abortion banners sick sense of morality
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Your need to declare a typo as a sign of your victory reveals the nature of your "victory"
    Maybe more like a Freudian slip on your part, eh?

    There is no harm, sangha, with admitting defeat, it is already borne out by what has gone on before... should be no tremendous shame in that, if you learn from your mistakes. Debate should be about learning, research, realizing where your weaknesses are, shoring those up, if possible, honing your arguments... or, in your case, reevaluating your perspective and changing it to be the more correct one... you have much work ahead of you if you maintain your present posture... if you want to go the smarter path, I have already done the majority of the work here.

    Good luck, but better to have developed the proper skills...

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Maybe more like a Freudian slip on your part, eh?

    There is no harm, sangha, with admitting defeat, it is already borne out by what has gone on before... should be no tremendous shame in that, if you learn from your mistakes. Debate should be about learning, research, realizing where your weaknesses are, shoring those up, if possible, honing your arguments... or, in your case, reevaluating your perspective and changing it to be the more correct one... you have much work ahead of you if you maintain your present posture... if you want to go the smarter path, I have already done the majority of the work here.

    Good luck, but better to have developed the proper skills...
    There is no debate with you. All you have done is repeat delusions which have no basis in reality.

    How else to explain to an abortion banner who thinks he has "won" that abortion is 100% legal?
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Pregnancy is not a contract, and abortion is still legal

    Woman are not slaves to the abortion banners sick sense of morality
    Abortion is still legal up to a certain point, you can rely upon that only for the time being. Pregnancy is the result of a coming together of minds and bodies, the signatures of both parties being in the DNA. Merriam Webster contract : 1. a : a binding agreement between two or more persons or parties; especially : one legally enforceable. As soon as abortion becomes illegal, you can be sure that that pregnancy will be just that, a contract between the two parties creating a child. Paternity is already binding in many cases.

    And we are in agreement, women are not slaves, voluntary servitude is not slavery.

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Abortion is still legal up to a certain point, you can rely upon that only for the time being. Pregnancy is the result of a coming together of minds and bodies, the signatures of both parties being in the DNA. Merriam Webster contract : 1. a : a binding agreement between two or more persons or parties; especially : one legally enforceable. As soon as abortion becomes illegal, you can be sure that that pregnancy will be just that, a contract between the two parties creating a child. Paternity is already binding in many cases.

    And we are in agreement, women are not slaves, voluntary servitude is not slavery.
    Talking about delusions, where did you get the idea that DNA is a form of consent to a contract?

    You do realize that two people having sex does not fulfill the criteria used to determine that a contract has been formed?

    And once again, like the tin foil hat guy on the corner, you seem to think you have the power of prophecy.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    There is no debate with you. All you have done is repeat delusions which have no basis in reality.

    How else to explain to an abortion banner who thinks he has "won" that abortion is 100% legal?
    First of all....

    Abortion is not 100% legal... do you even pause to think before hitting the submit button...? One cannot perform an abortion at any time in the pregnancy, you are aware of that are you not? Abortion within a certain prescribed time frame is still legal, abortion outside of that time frame, depending upon certain specific circumstances might be legal if those very specific criteria are met, partial birth, for example, abortions are illegal... why do you keep stepping into this stuff where it so easy to call you on what is factually untrue [ again and again and again and...]? You know what they say the definition of insanity is, do you not? Doing something over and over again expecting a different result.

    Funny what you call delusions are facts that you cannot disprove... I have listed them time and again, you keep avoiding them, but if one is not physically blind... but does not or just cannot see what is right before him, what then must the rest of us conclude? I leave you to ponder that one...

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    First of all....

    Abortion is not 100% legal... do you even pause to think before hitting the submit button...? One cannot perform an abortion at any time in the pregnancy, you are aware of that are you not? Abortion within a certain prescribed time frame is still legal, abortion outside of that time frame, depending upon certain specific circumstances might be legal if those very specific criteria are met, partial birth, for example, abortions are illegal... why do you keep stepping into this stuff where it so easy to call you on what is factually untrue [ again and again and again and...]? You know what they say the definition of insanity is, do you not? Doing something over and over again expecting a different result.

    Funny what you call delusions are facts that you cannot disprove... I have listed them time and again, you keep avoiding them, but if one is not physically blind... but does not or just cannot see what is right before him, what then must the rest of us conclude? I leave you to ponder that one...
    Abortion is 100% legal. Repeating your delusions does not make them true
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Talking about delusions, where did you get the idea that DNA is a form of consent to a contract?

    You do realize that two people having sex does not fulfill the criteria used to determine that a contract has been formed?

    And once again, like the tin foil hat guy on the corner, you seem to think you have the power of prophecy.
    DNA is much better than a signature, signatures can be forged...DNA is almost as good as a fingerprint.

    Secondly, I made no statements solely about sex, I did about sex and a resulting pregnancy. One does not determine paternity from sex only, one determines paternity with sex and pregnancy. This would establish a legal relationship between a father and his child...legal obligations that are enforceable. Call it what you will... i have no particular affinity for the word "contract", but it does convey the idea of the legal obligations that are recognized.

    You are aware, all this name calling [ "delusional", "tin foil hats", "nut baggers", the GOP being the "party of the stupid"], is presenting an unbecoming and, to some, what might be considered a rather immature image... this is debate, remember. Prove your points, let the folks decide. Actually, when my opponents start doing that, rather than get upset, I just understand it is, perhaps, their most face saving way of conceding they really have no further argument, that they are admitting defeat.

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Abortion is 100% legal. Repeating your delusions does not make them true
    Gosh, this is almost painful for me to have to do... but let us just test you to see if abortion is 100% legal.

    Is partial birth abortion legal?

    Let me remind you of this:

    Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003 (Pub.L. 108105, 117 Stat. 1201, enacted November 5, 2003, 18 U.S.C. 1531,[1] PBA Ban) is a US law prohibiting a form of late-term abortion that the Act calls "partial-birth abortion". Under the Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act, "Any physician who, in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce, knowingly performs a partial-birth abortion and thereby kills a human fetus shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both." In 2007 its constitutionality was upheld by SCOTUS in the case of Gonzales v. Carhart.

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