What's bizzare is people clinging to the notion that they need to call abortion murder, seemingly for purely political purposes of wanting to use it as an emotional tool to bludgeon opposition with, rather than calling it something more accurate to their position such as immoral/unjust/wrongful killing or slaying.[/QUOTE]If you're speaking about moral or ethics, then "Killing" or perhaps "Slaying" would be more appropriate. Murder is a term, by it's very definition, steeped in the discussion of LAW not morals and ethics, as it is UNLAWFUL killing.
Where did I ever claim abortion was murder? It was more a general observation about the approach to ethical and moral reasoning
PS Websters also list something to the effect of "to kill barbarously" under their definitions of murder
i wonder why no one ever addresses the millions of people that have had abortions and felt obligated by their morals and responsibilities to do so.
I wonder why their morals dont count and others some how are magically more important?
I wonder why people quote the bible but yet ignore other parts of it, i wonder why they quote the bible but wont accept "certain translations" or versions old vs new testament, king James etc etc based on just their opinion
this is why i would never use my personal morals/beliefs that are based on religion to try and make laws to force others to follow. Nor would i use it to judge others since thats completely backwards from what i was taught religion is for and is about.
The religion argument for abortion and marriage when we are talking legality will always be failures. This is why my religion never comes play for the vast majority of conversations about politics, rights, freedoms and liberties. Its because it has no business coming up. I wont force my Christianity on others.