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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
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    No. Nowhere did anyone make the claim that he attacked her.

    Please supply some information to support your claim that he attacked her.

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I think it might be one of the Ten Commandments, but that only applies to the Christians and the Jews.
    You think it might be one of the Ten Commandments? It's actually Number 6 on the list.

    And you are probably right that it only applies to Christians and Jews. With a little research it's my guess that those who support abortion tend to be agnostics or atheists, and have little regard for anyone's life apart from their own. Even their own lives are probably quite shallow.

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS

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    Well bless your misguided little heart....


    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The constitution applies to persons, which do not include the unborn

    Simply asserted, that just cannot be considered debate, being only a firmly held yet very shaky opinion, at best.

    I have proven that this is true with quotes from the constitution and SCOTUS

    Not only never proven, explicitly called out/proven wrong regarding such "creative" assertions about our Constitution that only exist as a figment of a liberal imagination...turned out to be at minimum a vast overreach if not a flat out prevarication. But clearly communicated were very good powers of avoidance, a voluntary blindness to facts and logic...personally I do not consider those to be virtues to be cultivated nor encouraged here.

    But I realize that the right has no use for facts or the constitution

    We realize you have opinions that you want, would absolutely love, to call facts, facts that are fictions to anyone that takes the time to verify...

    I don't mind folks being obstinate, though it can be frustrating at times, no doubt, but I do expect honest brokers of information, so those of you who are simply unable, please just ignore my comments to your posts, we will be wasting each other's time if you respond and are not actually looking for an honest approach to a dialogue predicated at getting closer to the truth, or at least a better, civil, while of course at times adversarial, but an actual attempt at understanding of a differing point of view.

    One can always pick out those who do not like their myths questioned... its almost as if its against their religion.

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You think it might be one of the Ten Commandments? It's actually Number 6 on the list.

    And you are probably right that it only applies to Christians and Jews. With a little research it's my guess that those who support abortion tend to be agnostics or atheists, and have little regard for anyone's life apart from their own. Even their own lives are probably quite shallow.



    Most Americans support a woman's right to choose and the vast majority of Americans are Christians.

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    No. Nowhere did anyone make the claim that he attacked her.

    Please supply some information to support your claim that he attacked her.
    Maybe he's misunderstanding "battery."

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I just love it when the whiners complain about a SCOTUS decision and complain about how it doesn't follow the constitution. It seems that these malcontents are just so so insistent about following the constitution. Well, at least until you get to the part where the constitution gives SCOTUS the power to determine how to apply the constitution.

    Then, the constitution is to be ignored, just as the constitution should be ignored when it doesn't give the govt the power that the abortion banners want it to have - to ban abortion
    Well...there you go again...going to that very same dry well you could not get " only a born person" out of... pesky document, for some anyhow, our Constitution. Why don't you show all of us exactly where in the Constitution , "... the part where the constitution gives SCOTUS the power to determine how to apply the constitution." Just quote to us where it says anything of the sort in Article III. My quick impression is that you do not seem to have studied the Constitution in any particular detail from all these loose, at best, assertions you make about it and what this framework for our governance "says".

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    he poisoner her? You mean he's being charged with her murder?

    Can you provide a link to that?
    Did you fail to read the linked article or are you just playing stupid for your own pathetic amusement? He tricked her into taking drugs that she did not want to take, that harmed her; that is legally defined as assault in this country. Therefore he assaulted her, which is what led to the loss of her unborn child. He is being-- incorrectly, in my opinion-- charged with the murder of the unborn child that was killed during the commission of a violent felony, in this case the assault upon the mother.

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Maybe he's misunderstanding "battery."
    There seems to be many words here which have lost their original meaning.

    Too often they are trying to cloak their beliefs and feelings into legal terms, and it comes out garbled.

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Yes really

    Because we have a constitution

    The abortion banners would like to forget about the constitution
    We, on the right, seem to be the only ones who know very much about our Constitution. Not the made up stuff, the real Constitution.

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    Re: Florida Man Charged with Murder for Killing Ex-Girlfriend's FETUS[W330;338]

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    Did you fail to read the linked article or are you just playing stupid for your own pathetic amusement? He tricked her into taking drugs that she did not want to take, that harmed her; that is legally defined as assault in this country. Therefore he assaulted her, which is what led to the loss of her unborn child. He is being-- incorrectly, in my opinion-- charged with the murder of the unborn child that was killed during the commission of a violent felony, in this case the assault upon the mother.
    Do you not understand what the word "poisoned" means? Even in your own summary of what happened you fail to use the term.

    I agree that an assault took place, which is the crime he should be charged with. The problem for the abortionists is that using the term "murder" implies that this baby was a 'person', a term groups such as Planned Parenthood want to avoid.

    If this goes to court it could change abortion laws dramatically and could again visit the Supreme Court. Perhaps that's what all this is really about.

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