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    Re: Report: IRS denied tax-exempt status to pro-lifers on behalf of Planned Parenthoo

    Quote Originally Posted by Strucky View Post
    Apparently freedom of speech/religion is no longer tolerated by the Left.
    The Libbos only tolerate free speech when it benefits their agenda. If it doesn't then you can expet a great big "**** you" from them. They only believe in THEIR civil rights and screw everyone else's.
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    Re: Report: IRS denied tax-exempt status to pro-lifers on behalf of Planned Parenthoo

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Again I ask, why should religious objection allow you to dodge any law you feel like?

    I have a deep religious objection to speed limits.
    It doesn't allow you to dodge anyaw you feel like. However, laws that force people to violate their religious convictions shouldn't be passed.

    You can post all the rediculously stupid examples you want, but it doesn't change the facts.

    It's a right to keep and bear arms. Should there be a law forcing you to buy a gun for your employees, when you are an anti-gunner? Of course not!
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    Re: Report: IRS denied tax-exempt status to pro-lifers on behalf of Planned Parenthoo

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    They're refusing to provide insurance which pays for health care and medical procedures.
    No they're not. They're refusing to pay for birth control.



    So does every employer who has a problem with abortion/birth control get a free pass?
    If they claim a religious status, sure. Why not? I mean, at least for the time being, it's still a free country.
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    Re: Report: IRS denied tax-exempt status to pro-lifers on behalf of Planned Parenthoo

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No they're not. They're refusing to pay for birth control.


    So does every employer who has a problem with abortion/birth control get a free pass?

    If they claim a religious status, sure. Why not? I mean, at least for the time being, it's still a free country.

    You obviously haven't thought too deeply on this subject OR if you think you have, you apparently have only looked at the matter from a Christian viewpoint.

    From your statements here about an employer's religious beliefs controlling health matters for their employees, one could reasonably assume that you would allow Muslim employers to cite shariah law when employees might ask for something that goes against shariah. What about a devout Hindu employer who would not allow employees to bring in a roast beef sandwich for their lunch? What about a Scientologist who would require his employees to undergo "clearance" as part of their health plan? amirite?
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    Re: Report: IRS denied tax-exempt status to pro-lifers on behalf of Planned Parenthoo

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    You obviously haven't thought too deeply on this subject OR if you think you have, you apparently have only looked at the matter from a Christian viewpoint.

    From your statements here about an employer's religious beliefs controlling health matters for their employees, one could reasonably assume that you would allow Muslim employers to cite shariah law when employees might ask for something that goes against shariah. What about a devout Hindu employer who would not allow employees to bring in a roast beef sandwich for their lunch? What about a Scientologist who would require his employees to undergo "clearance" as part of their health plan? amirite?
    Give me an example of something that goes against shariah law and let's see.
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    Re: Report: IRS denied tax-exempt status to pro-lifers on behalf of Planned Parenthoo

    Quote Originally Posted by Strucky View Post
    This country was founded on the freedom of religion and has been a corner stone on which this country was built....To deny that now pretty much says the separation of church and state no longer applies and the government is free to impose it's will on what any religion can and cannot believe in.
    Exactly. So I should be exempt from speed limits. Who are you to tell me what I can't believe in?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Report: IRS denied tax-exempt status to pro-lifers on behalf of Planned Parenthoo

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It doesn't allow you to dodge anyaw you feel like. However, laws that force people to violate their religious convictions shouldn't be passed.

    You can post all the rediculously stupid examples you want, but it doesn't change the facts.

    It's a right to keep and bear arms. Should there be a law forcing you to buy a gun for your employees, when you are an anti-gunner? Of course not!
    What makes health insurance not a ridiculous example, but speed limits ridiculous? If I don't vaccinate my kids, it can place other children in danger. So they can't attend public school without those vaccinations, by law. If my religion says I shouldn't vaccinate my kids, can they go to that school anyway?

    Where's your line? At which point does my religious freedom fail to override the law? Human sacrifice?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Report: IRS denied tax-exempt status to pro-lifers on behalf of Planned Parenthoo

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    According to the religious convictions of some folks, yes it does.
    Those convictions are then stupid. Preventing a pregnancy actually avoids an abortion. That's so ridiculously basic, it's not surprising you're actually hiding behind it.
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    Re: Report: IRS denied tax-exempt status to pro-lifers on behalf of Planned Parenthoo

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Those convictions are then stupid. Preventing a pregnancy actually avoids an abortion.
    It doesn't take away from the fact that people still have the right to those beliefs and the government can't do a damn thing about it.

    That's so ridiculously basic, it's not surprising you're actually hiding behind it.
    What's the point of this comment?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Report: IRS denied tax-exempt status to pro-lifers on behalf of Planned Parenthoo

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    What makes health insurance not a ridiculous example, but speed limits ridiculous? If I don't vaccinate my kids, it can place other children in danger. So they can't attend public school without those vaccinations, by law. If my religion says I shouldn't vaccinate my kids, can they go to that school anyway?

    Where's your line? At which point does my religious freedom fail to override the law? Human sacrifice?
    You're still using rediculous examples. I'm not sure if it's shear ignorance, or stubborness.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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