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    Re: Report: IRS denied tax-exempt status to pro-lifers on behalf of Planned Parenthoo

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You don't have a right to be anti-choice AND force it upon your employees. The free exercise of religion is restricted to the individual.



    I don't know of any recognized religion, ideology or creed where it's compulsory to eat any animal. On the other hand, some women must take birth control for medical reasons such as regulating periods, avoid pregnancies (the ones in steady relationships), reduce cramps etc. So the examples aren't remotely the same.

    If the employer was telling employees he won't provide X while providing viable alternatives, then yes he would be allowed as it wouldn't cause undue hardship of any kind. In the same way, a Muslim employer can't force his employees to fast or eat a certain times. But that's not applicable as the anti-choice side isn't providing any real viable alternatives are they?

    And even if they did, what other religious beliefs should we expect the pro-lifers to enforce on employees with impunity? Slavery? Dietary restrictions? When to have sex?

    I asked you twice to tell us where to draw the line on the free exercise of religion and simple workplace tyranny. Which religious beliefs are to be picked and chosen for the rest of us to follow? If I work at a Muslim place, I should be forced to fast even though it has no relevance to my job? If I work at a Hindu owned place, I can't eat beef because they hold it sacred? Where do we draw the lines on individuals exercising their freedom of religion and forcing others to exercise their religion?
    There's no scenario where a woman has to take birth control to avoid dieing. Birth control isn't so expensive that she can't go buy it outside her insurance plan. And, any woman that doesn't like the fact that her employer has rights and doesn't want to buy her birth control for her can go find another job where they do buy her birtch control and we'll that mean ol' free market take care the situation.

    And even if they did, what other religious beliefs should we expect the pro-lifers to enforce on employees with impunity? Slavery? Dietary restrictions? When to have sex?
    More assinine examples?

    By your logic, the government can violate anyone's rights, as long as they have a good reason. They could put people into slavery, for the good of the country, according to you. I know some people they could start with
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Report: IRS denied tax-exempt status to pro-lifers on behalf of Planned Parenthoo

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You're still using rediculous examples. I'm not sure if it's shear ignorance, or stubborness.
    And you're dodging the question. Tell me exactly where you place the line.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Report: IRS denied tax-exempt status to pro-lifers on behalf of Planned Parenthoo

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    There's no scenario where a woman has to take birth control to avoid dieing. Birth control isn't so expensive that she can't go buy it outside her insurance plan. And, any woman that doesn't like the fact that her employer has rights and doesn't want to buy her birth control for her can go find another job where they do buy her birtch control and we'll that mean ol' free market take care the situation.



    More assinine examples?

    By your logic, the government can violate anyone's rights, as long as they have a good reason. They could put people into slavery, for the good of the country, according to you. I know some people they could start with
    Ovarian cysts can become cancerous.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Report: IRS denied tax-exempt status to pro-lifers on behalf of Planned Parenthoo

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Ovarian cysts can become cancerous.
    Birth control cures cancer?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Report: IRS denied tax-exempt status to pro-lifers on behalf of Planned Parenthoo

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    And you're dodging the question. Tell me exactly where you place the line.
    I've already explained it to you. I can't help that you're too busy dreaming up rediculous scenarios to notice.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Report: IRS denied tax-exempt status to pro-lifers on behalf of Planned Parenthoo

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Birth control cures cancer?


    Are you being deliberately obtuse or are you simply this ignorant?

    For some women, birth control pills control the conditions that lead to cancer. IN other words, the pills don't cure cancer, they reduce the chances of suffering from cancer.
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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