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Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

Not at all. The attack was on the Consulate. Survivors evacuated and relocated to the Annex to make their stand.:cool:
There were 2 attacks, Doherty from Tripoli was killed in the 2nd attack. The point was that not even that JSOC unit could have made it in time to the 1st attack. You can't even apply your comments to your own context.
 
FFS....he was on the ground, he knew the risks, he was receiving it first hand. If he didn't feel that his own skin was in danger, how then can his boss half way around the world be accused of incompetence and Stevens is not. What was it, he was chained to his desk?

You guys have such limited abilities.

That doesn't gve him authority to issue orders to military units!...LOL!!!

Because his BOSS is in-****ing-charge!
 
There were 2 attacks, Doherty from Tripoli was killed in the 2nd attack. The point was that not even that JSOC unit could have made it in time to the 1st attack. You can't even apply your comments to your own context.

That's no excuse not to try.

2 spontaneous attacks?...LOL!!
 
There were 2 attacks, Doherty from Tripoli was killed in the 2nd attack. The point was that not even that JSOC unit could have made it in time to the 1st attack. You can't even apply your comments to your own context.

I have never said anyone could have made it. None of your post relates to anything I have posted.:roll:
 
That doesn't gve him authority to issue orders to military units!...LOL!!!

Because his BOSS is in-****ing-charge!
I am not talking about issuing orders, I'm talking about getting out of Dodge.

Do you need me to draw a picture for you?
 
I am not talking about issuing orders, I'm talking about getting out of Dodge.

Do you need me to draw a picture for you?

In that case, Stevens should be tried in absenthia for dereliction of duty and endangerment, because his incompetance got 3 men killed.

The chump-in-charge has the authroty to override the ambassador's request for evacuation assets. He should have fought past his incompetance and excercised that authority.
 
I have never said anyone could have made it. None of your post relates to anything I have posted.:roll:
...LOL...OK.....you were responding to context you did not understand.


here you go
find out how long into the surprise assault on benghazi that the Americans were killed
now compare those few minutes with the amount of time required to mobilize an assault/extraction team and place them on site
share with us how you could have done that in the few minutes prior to the Americans being killed
impress us with your 'military knowledge'
my prediction is you will absolutely run from this challenge
The two ex-SEALS were killed after seven hours of fighting. One came from Tripoli to get into the fight. I'm sure they fought on in the expectation that their brothers were coming. There's a Roland-at-the-bridge quality to this story.:cool:

You know Jack, you really are better than this, stop hiding and face up to the point you were addressing....or at least remember it.
 
he coulda sent fest

"one administration official" observed, "i don't see a downside"

"another admin official who was part of the benghazi response" told ms attkisson, "i wish we'd sent it"

too bad it was "ruled out from the start" by patrick kennedy, hrc's deputy

obama's white house, according to obama's white house: idiots is us

"We're portrayed by Republicans as either being lying or idiots," said one Obama administration official who was part of the Benghazi response. "It's actually closer to us being idiots."

cbs above

now, aren't you reassured?
 
In that case, Stevens should be tried in absenthia for dereliction of duty and endangerment, because his incompetance got 3 men killed.

The chump-in-charge has the authroty to override the ambassador's request for evacuation assets. He should have fought past his incompetance and excercised that authority.
There you go, Stevens was "incompetent" too, you were trapped by your own silly logic.
 
you were responding to context you did not understand

that seems to be a rather common occurrence around here

LOL!

why is the obama administration eagerly claiming incompetence

as a defense?
 
...LOL...OK.....you were responding to context you did not understand.




You know Jack, you really are better than this, stop hiding and face up to the point you were addressing....or at least remember it.

Your post is irrational. I don't take responsibility for any posts or assertions but my own. One ex-SEAL was in Benghazi when it all began. One came from Tripoli and joined the fight in progress. The fight took seven hours. They no doubt expected more help was on the way. It never came.:cool:
 
In that case, Stevens should be tried in absenthia for dereliction of duty and endangerment, because his incompetance got 3 men killed.

The chump-in-charge has the authroty to override the ambassador's request for evacuation assets. He should have fought past his incompetance and excercised that authority.



Maybe it should be investigated whether he was receiving funds from big oil. I read the spew about him "loving the Libyan people" , a club which used to have one member, him.........................
 
that seems to be a rather common occurrence around here

LOL!

why is the obama administration eagerly claiming incompetence

as a defense?

Incompetence, although pathetic, sounds better than the alternative.
 
That doesn't gve him authority to issue orders to military units!...LOL!!!

Because his BOSS is in-****ing-charge!
You don't know what was going on there, there was a secret CIA operation there.
 
maureen dowd, a week ago tomorrow:

The administration’s behavior before and during the attack in Benghazi, in which four Americans died, was unworthy of the greatest power on earth.

After his Libyan intervention, President Obama knew he was sending diplomats and their protectors into a country that was no longer a country, a land rife with fighters affiliated with Al Qaeda.

Yet in this hottest of hot spots, the State Department’s minimum security requirements were not met, requests for more security were rejected, and contingency plans were not drawn up, despite the portentous date of 9/11 and cascading warnings from the C.I.A., which had more personnel in Benghazi than State did and vetted the feckless Libyan Praetorian Guard. When the Pentagon called an elite Special Forces team three hours into the attack, it was training in Croatia — decidedly not a hot spot.

Hillary Clinton and Ambassador Chris Stevens were rushing to make the flimsy Benghazi post permanent as a sign of good faith with Libyans, even as it sat ringed by enemies.

The hierarchies at State and Defense had a plodding response, failing to make any superhuman effort as the siege waxed and waned over eight hours.

In an emotional Senate hearing on Wednesday, Stevens’s second-in-command, Gregory Hicks, who was frantically trying to help from 600 miles away in Tripoli, described how his pleas were denied by military brass, who said they could not scramble planes and who gave a “stand-down” order to four Special Forces officers in Tripoli who were eager to race to Benghazi.

The defense secretary at the time, Leon Panetta, insisted, “We quickly responded.” But they responded that they would not respond. As Emma Roller and David Weigel wrote in Slate: “The die was cast long before the attack, by the weak security at the consulate, and commanders may have decided to cut their losses rather than risking more casualties. And that isn’t a story anyone prefers to tell.”

Prepared talking points about the attack included mentions of Al Qaeda and Ansar al-Sharia, a Libyan militant group, but the State Department got those references struck. Foggy Bottom’s spokeswoman, Victoria Nuland, a former Cheney aide, quashed a we-told-you-so paragraph written by the C.I.A. that said the spy agency had “produced numerous pieces on the threat of extremists linked to Al Qaeda in Benghazi and eastern Libya,” and had warned about five other attacks “against foreign interests in Benghazi by unidentified assailants, including the June attack against the British ambassador’s convoy.”

Nuland fretted about “my building leadership,” and with backing from Ben Rhodes, a top White House aide, lobbied to remove those reminders from the talking points because they “could be abused by members” of Congress “to beat up the State Department for not paying attention to warnings, so why would we want to feed that either?”

Hicks said that Beth Jones, an under secretary of state, bristled when he asked ask her why Susan Rice had stressed the protest over an anti-Muslim video rather than a premeditated attack — a Sunday show marathon that he said made his jaw drop. He believes he was demoted because he spoke up.

Hillary’s chief of staff, Cheryl Mills, also called Hicks to angrily ask why a State Department lawyer had not been allowed to monitor every meeting in Libya with Congressman Jason Chaffetz, who visited in October. (The lawyer did not have the proper security clearance for one meeting.) Hicks said he had never before been scolded for talking to a lawmaker.

All the factions wove their own mythologies at the expense of our deepest national mythology: that if there is anything, no matter how unlikely or difficult, that we can do to try to save the lives of Americans who have volunteered for dangerous assignments, we must do it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/12/opinion/sunday/dowd-when-myths-collide-in-the-capital.html?_r=0

hey, at least according to the white house they were just being stupid instead of corrupt

why didn't foggy bottom at least convene the csg?
 
you'd have had to be there before the poster edited out HIS idiocy

because if an administration's best defense for multiple failures resulting in the death of a us ambassador and 3 other brave americans is incompetence...

what could you possibly be protecting
I didn't edit my comment because I thought Romney would do a better job, I edited it out because the circumstances may not have been there same. If they were, Romney would not have done better, IMO.
 
You don't know what was going on there, there was a secret CIA operation there.

So, is that the newest excuse to sit back and do nothing while four Americans were murdered by terrorists?
 
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