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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Again, it was a CIA operation, not a State dept mission, the State dept was being used as a cover, they were not in an authority position.

    Face it Jack, this time you are not in the know.
    Ignorance speaks. What you describe is both illegal and contrary to policy. The Chief of Mission represents the President, not the Department of State. All personnel on both compounds were under his authority. It was that way 100% of the time during my nearly 34 years of service, and it was that way in Benghazi.
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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    It does not matter in the slightest what agency anyone was from. They were all under Chief of Mission authority -- both compounds and all personnel.
    The bureaucracy must be immense and moribund if Americans can only be rescued depending on which agency they belong to.

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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    I will ask you for the same info I asked Jack, show me where the US military has been used to rescue CIA operatives on secret missions in sovereign states.
    Why? How is that relevant to the situation in Benghazi?

    What 'secret mission' was this, and is it still a secret?

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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The bureaucracy must be immense and moribund if Americans can only be rescued depending on which agency they belong to.
    You would be correct if that were so. I assume your intent was sarcasm, and I appreciate it. My other interlocutor is posting well beyond his knowledge.
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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    That is a silly, uninformed statement. The answer of course is: yes,: the personnel of any agency would expect the USG to use all its resources on their behalf. That is why the Acting Chief of Mission was so interested in getting help to Benghazi.
    Sure he would, but he was not in charge of CIA operations in Benghazi.
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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Again, it was a CIA operation, not a State dept mission, the State dept was being used as a cover, they were not in an authority position.

    Face it Jack, this time you are not in the know.
    If it wasn't a State Department mission, why did the Sec. of State take the responsibility for it?

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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    You would be correct if that were so. I assume your intent was sarcasm, and I appreciate it. My other interlocutor is posting well beyond his knowledge.
    Just to be clear, it was sarcasm.

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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Sure he would, but he was not in charge of CIA operations in Benghazi.
    The Chief of Mission is responsible for all activities of all personnel of all agencies.
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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Just to be clear, it was sarcasm.
    Thank you. Talleyrand once said things that go without saying go better when said.
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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Ignorance speaks. What you describe is both illegal and contrary to policy. The Chief of Mission represents the President, not the Department of State. All personnel on both compounds were under his authority. It was that way 100% of the time during my nearly 34 years of service, and it was that way in Benghazi.
    Really..OK...I just posted multiple sources...just for you.....showing that this was not a State dept operation but a CIA operation, but you keep on with your narrative of this is a State operation.

    Again Jack, you are ignoring facts. State doesn't have authority over CIA ops.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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