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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    He was on all the Sunday morning news shows. They're probably all repeated somewhere sometime.
    I'm kinda surprised the WH would encourage a repeat of the kind of thing that would have folks recall Rice's mendacity fest.
    As matter of interest, a CNN/ORC report dated May 19, 2013 titled... POLL: CONGRESS NOT OVERREACHING ON OBAMA SCANDALS dated May 19, 2013, showed that 54 percent of Americans don't believe that Congress is overreacting to the IRS scrutiny of conservative groups, while 42 percent said it is.

    By an even larger margin, 59 percent to 37 percent, respondents said that Congress is making the right moves on the administration's actions on the Benghazi terror attack.

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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Are you saying that when the attacks began the State Department knew how long they would last? How would they know they couldn't make it in time?
    Um, there were drones observing....which would be one answer.

    The fact is they just waited around until everyone was dead, then BHO went to Vegas, Hillary said she was responsible and the entire screw-up was blamed on a Youtube video. Are you still buying that, by the way?
    What a sad self commentary.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    I don't think so, especially for a secret CIA mission.
    What mission could be so "secret" that they couldn't try to rescue their fellow Americans?

    Did this mission succeed as a result of the secrecy or did it fail anyway?

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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    WASHINGTON, Nov. 2 (UPI) -- The CIA was the real commanding agency at the attacked U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, not the State Department, senior U.S. intelligence officials said.

    In addition, two of the four men who died in the Sept. 11 attack -- former Navy SEAL commandos Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty -- were actually CIA contractors killed defending the mission, not State Department contract security officers, as originally publicly identified, the officials told several news organizations on condition of anonymity.


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    Of the more than 30 U.S. officials evacuated from Benghazi, only seven worked for the State Department, officials briefed on the intelligence told The Wall Street Journal. Nearly all the rest worked for the CIA, under diplomatic cover, which was a principal purpose of the consulate, the Journal said.

    Read more: Ex-Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods, Glen Doherty: CIA workers, not State Dept. - UPI.com
    It does not matter in the slightest what agency anyone was from. They were all under Chief of Mission authority -- both compounds and all personnel.
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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    What mission could be so "secret" that they couldn't try to rescue their fellow Americans?

    Did this mission succeed as a result of the secrecy or did it fail anyway?
    I will ask you for the same info I asked Jack, show me where the US military has been used to rescue CIA operatives on secret missions in sovereign states.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    this was a CIA operation
    what was the ambassador doing there?

    spying?

    counting hostages?

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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    It does not matter in the slightest what agency anyone was from. They were all under Chief of Mission authority -- both compounds and all personnel.
    Again, it was a CIA operation, not a State dept mission, the State dept was being used as a cover, they were not in an authority position.

    Face it Jack, this time you are not in the know.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    So to reiterate, Jack, this was a CIA operation, and as such, CIA secret operatives would not expect US military intervention in a sovereign state for their rescue.
    That is a silly, uninformed statement. The answer of course is: yes,: the personnel of any agency would expect the USG to use all its resources on their behalf. That is why the Acting Chief of Mission was so interested in getting help to Benghazi.
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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Quote Originally Posted by bzzzz View Post
    what was the ambassador doing there?

    spying?

    counting hostages?
    Bzzzzzzz...
    As previously posted, he was there temporarily to hand over the "consulate" compound over to the Libyans, it was converted into an "American Center", pr, leaning facilities, computers.."hearts and minds".

    Find out for yourself.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Um, there were drones observing....which would be one answer.
    The drones were observing the Americans under attack but no one kknew how long the attack would continue. therefore how would anyone know whether they would get there in time or not? They should leave immediately with the understanding that they could get there in time, shouldn't they?

    What a sad self commentary.
    A sad self commentary?

    Indeed it is a sad commentary on those in charge, and those who contributed to this sad commentary should be held responsible.

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