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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    In November The Wall Street Journal reported that the U.S. mission in Benghazi "was at its heart a CIA operation."
    In January, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told Congress that the CIA was leading a "concerted effort to try to track down and find and recover ... MANPADS [man-portable air defense systems]" looted from the stockpiles of toppled Libyan ruler Muammar Qaddafi.
    The State Department "consulate" served as diplomatic cover for the previously-hidden annex.

    The top-secret presence and location of the CIA outpost was first acknowledged by Charlene Lamb, a top official in the State Department's Bureau of Diplomatic Security, during Congressional testimony in October.
    Representatives Jason Chaffetz and Darrell Issa immediately called a point of order when Lamb exposed the location of the annex, and asked for the revelation to be stricken from the record.
    “I totally object to the use of that photo,” Chaffetz. said. “I was told specifically while I was in Libya I could not and should not ever talk about what you’re showing here today.”


    Read more: The Secret CIA Mission In Benghazi - Business Insider
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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    This is not a difference of opinion. It is a simple question of fact.
    WASHINGTON, Nov. 2 (UPI) -- The CIA was the real commanding agency at the attacked U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, not the State Department, senior U.S. intelligence officials said.

    In addition, two of the four men who died in the Sept. 11 attack -- former Navy SEAL commandos Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty -- were actually CIA contractors killed defending the mission, not State Department contract security officers, as originally publicly identified, the officials told several news organizations on condition of anonymity.


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    Of the more than 30 U.S. officials evacuated from Benghazi, only seven worked for the State Department, officials briefed on the intelligence told The Wall Street Journal. Nearly all the rest worked for the CIA, under diplomatic cover, which was a principal purpose of the consulate, the Journal said.





    Read more: Ex-Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods, Glen Doherty: CIA workers, not State Dept. - UPI.com
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    maureen dowd, nyt (link above):



    what do you think the ambassador was doing there

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    ouch

    i don't think even rush limbaugh would go that far

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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Chiefs of Mission are Presidential appointees, not State Department appointees. Chief of Mission authorities are therefore Presidentially derived. They cover all activities of all kinds by all agencies, diplomatic or non-diplomatic. This is a matter of fact. Whatever was happening at either compound in Benghazi, it was under Chief of Mission authority.
    Last week, the Washington Post's Glenn Kessler noted that the revised talking points indicated that Obama administration officials in various agencies were inhibited by a key fact as they were grappling with what could be said publicly about the attacks in Benghazi: The assault had targeted a CIA annex in addition to a temporary State Department mission. That made the job tough for the drafters of the talking points. As Kessler wrote,

    from the State Department perspective, this was an attack on a CIA operation, perhaps by the very people the CIA was battling, and the ambassador [Chris Stevens] tragically was in the wrong place at the wrong time. But, for obvious reasons, the administration could not publicly admit that Benghazi was mostly a secret CIA effort.

    Kessler emphasized an obvious point: The initial talking points drafted by the CIA implied that "State screwed up, even though internally, it was known that this was a CIA operation."

    Benghazi: What Did the CIA Know, and When Did It Know It? | Mother Jones
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    pfeiffer and schieffer, this morning:

    DAN PFEIFFER: The point that our Chief of Staff is making is that this is the Republican playbook here which is try, when they don't have a positive agenda, try to drag Washington into a swamp of partisan fishing expeditions, trumped up hearings and false allegations. We're not going to let that distract us and the President from actually doing the people's work and fighting for the middle class.

    BOB SCHIEFFER: You know, I don’t want to compare this in any way to Watergate. I do not think this is Watergate by any stretch. But you weren't born then I would guess, but I have to tell you that is exactly the approach that the Nixon administration took. They said, “These are all second-rate things. We don't have time for this. We have to devote our time to the people's business.” You’re taking exactly the same line they did.
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    SCHIEFFER: But Mr. Pfeiffer, and I don't mean to be argumentative here, but the President is in charge of the executive branch of the government. It’s my, I'll just make this as an assertion: when the executive branch does things right, there doesn't seem to be any hesitancy of the White House to take credit for that. When Osama bin Laden was killed, the President didn't waste any time getting out there and telling people about it.

    But with all of these things, when these things happen, you seem to send out officials many times who don't even seem to know what has happened. And I use as an example of that Susan Rice who had no connection whatsoever to the events that took place in Benghazi, and yet she was sent out, appeared on this broadcast, and other Sunday broadcasts, five days after it happens, and I'm not here to get in an argument with you about who changed which word in the talking points and all that. The bottom line is what she told the American people that day bore no resemblance to what had happened on the ground in an incident where four Americans were killed.

    But what I'm saying to you is that was just PR. That was just a PR plan to send out somebody who didn't know anything about what had happened. Why did you do that? Why didn't the Secretary of State come and tell us what they knew and if he knew nothing say, “We don't know yet?” Why didn't the White House Chief of Staff come out? I mean I would, and I mean this as no disrespect to you, why are you here today? Why isn't the White House Chief of Staff here to tell us what happened?
    Face The Nation - CBS News

    the white house doesn't want YOU to know, mr schieffer

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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    So to reiterate, Jack, this was a CIA operation, and as such, CIA secret operatives would not expect US military intervention in a sovereign state for their rescue.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Glenn Kessler
    that's the guy who gave the prevaricating potus 4 pinocchios for his "claim that he called benghazi an act of terrorism"

    tuesday: Obama's claim he called Benghazi an 'act of terrorism'; - The Washington Post

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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    then it would make sense that you agree with the earlier Kessler quote, it was a CIA operation.44901721.jpg
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    There were 2 attacks, Doherty from Tripoli was killed in the 2nd attack. The point was that not even that JSOC unit could have made it in time to the 1st attack. You can't even apply your comments to your own context.
    Are you saying that when the attacks began the State Department knew how long they would last? How would they know they couldn't make it in time?

    The fact is they just waited around until everyone was dead, then BHO went to Vegas, Hillary said she was responsible and the entire screw-up was blamed on a Youtube video. Are you still buying that, by the way?

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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Incompetence, although pathetic, sounds better than the alternative.
    They'd have to include lying also.

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