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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    wow.....
    Heya CJ....that's what I said since they have a taped excerpt of Stevens Requesting Security on Sept. 1 2012. Then I found this.

    Before death, Amb. Stevens warned of "violent" Libya landscape.....

    In the weeks before his death, U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens sent the State Department several requests for increased security for diplomats in Libya.

    Steven's memos to the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, which is investigating attacks, show he personally pressed for strengthened security.

    Ambassador warned Libya was "volatile and violent"
    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton takes "responsibility" for Benghazi attack

    On July 9, 2012, Stevens sent a "request for extension of tour of duty (TDY) personnel." That refers to a 16-man military temporary security team with expertise in counter terrorism. They were set to leave in August, but Stevens asked to keep them "thru mid-September."

    On August 2, six weeks before he died, Stevens requested "protective detail bodyguard postions," saying the added guards "will fill the vacuum of security personnel currently at post who will be leaving with the next month and will not be replaced." He called "the security condition in Libya ... unpredictable, volatile and violent." It's not known what happened to that request.

    Piecing together White House response to Benghazi

    On August 8, as the special security teams left Libya, another cable from Stevens says "a series of violent incidents has dominated the political landscape" and calls them "targeted and discriminate attacks."

    Colonel Andrew Wood led the U.S. military team that left Libya in August. He testified before Congress last week.

    He told CBS News that Stevens fought losing another security team.....snip~

    Watch: Ex-security team leader says Amb. Stevens was concerned over threats
    Security dwindled before deadly Libyan consulate attack
    CIA saw possible terror ties day after Libya hit: AP

    Before death, Amb. Stevens warned of "violent" Libya landscape - CBS News

    I would note all the other links.....CBS News has up as well about it as well.

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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    And that stopped Obama from sending help on the day of the attack, how?
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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

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    And that stopped Obama from sending help on the day of the attack, how?
    Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability - CBS News

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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Gates is playing Monday morning quarterback. He had no idea how the events would unfold beforehand.
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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security


    Marine 24th MEU Rapid Deployment Force, with the capability of deploying over 100 troops from anywhere in the world to anywhere in the world in 18 hours was tooling around in the Mediterranean at the ready. It would take a few hours at most to deploy them.

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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    It has been made clear that he did not want any additional American security forces and that it was Ambassador Stevens who declined the presence of additional American security forces in Benghazi.
    That hasn't been made clear at all, which is the point of my original post.

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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I didn't know that Stevens had the authority to give orders for the military to stand down. Last I heard, only the president had that authority.
    Refusing assistance is not a stand down order. please stop lying.

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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Marine 24th MEU Rapid Deployment Force, with the capability of deploying over 100 troops from anywhere in the world to anywhere in the world in 18 hours was tooling around in the Mediterranean at the ready. It would take a few hours at most to deploy them.
    you cannot deploy forces into foreign countries without permission from their government, and there is no way the libyan leader would have allowed american military to play shoot em up with locals. Like always you distort the reality of the situation.

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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    you cannot deploy forces into foreign countries without permission from their government, and there is no way the libyan leader would have allowed american military to play shoot em up with locals. Like always you distort the reality of the situation.
    So we had permission on 5/2/11 in Pakistan? Please, try to understand normal thinking.

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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Maybe if this was a Canadian Ambassador relying on the Canadian military for assistance, this might be credible because we do not have resources throughout the world but to suggest that the US military is incapable of any military action in North Africa within 8 hours of being informed. I'm not suggesting that such action would have been successful but to suggest the US couldn't even try is a sad commentary and perhaps an indictment of a country that spends around $700 billion a year on defense.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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