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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    What person in authority - be it the President, the Secretary of State, the Director of the CIA or the Secretary of Defense - wants to state publically that a U.S. Ambassador refused added security to save face not for himself or his country, but the country towhich he was assigned to broker foreign policy affairs? Would that make sense to most people? Not likely.
    Seriously, that's just nonsense. The President, the Secretary of State, the Director of the CIA, the Secretary of Defense, none of them thought enough of Ambassador Stevens to try to save him and the men on the ground trying to protect him yet you want us to believe that they thought so highly of him after he died that they wanted to save him from a little embarrassment?

    Obama throws more people under the bus on a daily basis than Joey Chestnut eats hotdogs.

    The left's constant attempts to justify Obama's disasterous presidency and administration is laughable.
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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Seriously, that's just nonsense. The President, the Secretary of State, the Director of the CIA, the Secretary of Defense, none of them thought enough of Ambassador Stevens to try to save him and the men on the ground trying to protect him yet you want us to believe that they thought so highly of him after he died that they wanted to save him from a little embarrassment?

    Obama throws more people under the bus on a daily basis than Joey Chestnut eats hotdogs.

    The left's constant attempts to justify Obama's disasterous presidency and administration is laughable.
    Mornin CJ. Well we weren't confused that Stevens asked for the 16 man team to stay on until Sept. Nor about his communications for the month of August as well as Sept. I doubt Lt Col Wood would testify that Stevens fought against the loss of the team. Plus Nordstrom's email showed they couldn't even operate for a 10 day period due to having only 2 Security Personnel. Which was Right for the Beginning of Sept.

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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin CJ. Well we weren't confused that Stevens asked for the 16 man team to stay on until Sept. Nor about his communications for the month of August as well as Sept. I doubt Lt Col Wood would testify that Stevens fought against the loss of the team. Plus Nordstrom's email showed they couldn't even operate for a 10 day period due to having only 2 Security Personnel. Which was Right for the Beginning of Sept.
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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    . They no doubt expected more help was on the way.
    I don't think so, especially for a secret CIA mission.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well we weren't confused that Stevens asked for the 16 man team to stay on until Sept.
    In Tripoli...
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    there were 7 members from state and 23 from the CIA.
    So under Obama the long held responsibillity of the State Dept to deal with embassy's all over the world can change based on the outcome of terro attacks ?

    There was a CIA presence, obvioisly because Obama was using Benghazi as a go between so he could arm Syrian Rebels. You know, the one's who have direct ties to Al Qaeda.

    It's his Iran-Contra

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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    I don't think so, especially for a secret CIA mission.
    Yea right Gimme.

    Wouldn't it be easier for Obama to just come out and SAY this was a CIA mission gone South ?

    With Assad gassing the rebels who would complain ?

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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    this was a CIA mission gone South ?
    Um, the second attack, the one under discussion, was a CIA mission that did indeed "go south".
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Um, the second attack, the one under discussion, was a CIA mission
    that did indeed "go south".

    No, no. Since it all was a "secret CIA mission" why didn't Obama from the beggining, instead of concocting some BS story about a youtube Video, just explain to the American people that we were trying to help the poor rebels fight Assad ?

    You guys keep reverting back to the narrative that the CIA had some sort of authority over the situation, that they changed the talking points and stopped reinforcments.

    It would be " believable " compared to the silly lie over a video.

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    Re: Mcclatchy: amabasador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    No, no. Since it all was a "secret CIA mission"
    This is a perfect example of why I don't bother responding to you any longer, you continue to take a specific point and then expand it out to some unrelated points and then claim it doesn't apply. Of course it doesn't apply because I never said it does. You take one thing and transfer it to something YOU want to talk about. It doesn't work like that. So if you want to debate with me, then stick to the point made, don't start conflating and expanding it out beyond the context.

    I never said "it was all", my point was specific to the second attack, not Assad, not the video....not anything else in your feeble imagination.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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