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Acting IRS commissioner resigns in wake of agency scandal

My guess?

Training...

Good afternoon, ocean515. :2wave:

LOL! And it has to be recurrent training, given some of the public's "attention span of a gnat." :rofl:
 
I tell you what, I promise not to let my age and wisdom evicerate your points due to your youth and inexperience.

Now, the question is not how COULD they decimate state coffers, but how DID they, ESPECIALLY since allowing it to happen was voluntary?

Explain...

OK, cite us evidence (i. e. actual numbers from state budget offices) of this decimating in the large space below and then I can explain it to you (once I get the citations). . .
For your convenience, I have provide the standard right wing source below--I'm sure he has the citations :2rofll:

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Good afternoon, ocean515. :2wave:

LOL! And it has to be recurrent training, given some of the public's "attention span of a gnat." :rofl:

:2wave: and to you Polgara.

I believe the attention span thing is counted on by those hoping the public has little of it.

I'm anticipating some kind of "bright shiney object" to be floated out soon, so all the attention is shifted from where it belongs.
 
That's right, and I think it's significant that in multiple news reports, assessments have used the word "chilling." Because that's exactly what this is--chilling. Asking what books folks are reading? Wanting printouts of Facebook posts?

No. No, no, no. The IRS wants YOU

Obviously the directive to stymie and investigate conservative 501(c)(4)'s and (c)(3)'s comes from the very top. Where has the term Tea Party terrorists come from? DHS, IRS, the Press, or the White House? Why have conservative groups come under attack, yet Progressive Leftist groups be allowed to violate the tenets of the rules set by the 501's. This fish stinks from the head.
 
The fixation on Limbaugh is pathetic. Really, it is. Why the obsession?

Conservatives need more help citing information to back up their claims, so when you provide their official source, it helps them.
 
OK, cite us evidence (i. e. actual numbers from state budget offices) of this decimating in the large space below and then I can explain it to you (once I get the citations). . .
For your convenience, I have provide the standard right wing source below--I'm sure he has the citations :2rofll:

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:shock:

Really? You really want to do this?

Ok.

California pension liabilities may swell to $328.6 bln -report | Reuters

Bankrupt California city to resume paying pension fund, but not bondholders | Reuters

California cities looking for economic recovery

Despite signs of economic recovery, many parts of the nation's most populous state are feeling a hangover from the collapse of housing prices, prolonged high unemployment and resulting declines in revenue. They are confronting soaring demands for spending on public workers' pensions and retiree health care while slashing services, rolling back pay and laying off cops, firefighters and other workers.


So?
 
Conservatives need more help citing information to back up their claims, so when you provide their official source, it helps them.

Really lame describing Limbaugh as an official source.

You might want to worry a wee more about your own sourcing and leave conservatives to their various sources, which you apparently haven't seen fit to notice. In just the past day, I've posted links from WaPo, HuffPo, Politico, ABC, CBS, and the NY Times, just to rattle off a few.
 
Obviously the directive to stymie and investigate conservative 501(c)(4)'s and (c)(3)'s comes from the very top. Where has the term Tea Party terrorists come from? DHS, IRS, the Press, or the White House? Why have conservative groups come under attack, yet Progressive Leftist groups be allowed to violate the tenets of the rules set by the 501's. This fish stinks from the head.

Comic Sans overload... Arial or Helvetica is better for reading.

Conservative groups are not under attack. As far as I know, those with overtly political names were given extra scrutiny when applying for tax exemptions.
 
IRS Rejected Group on Behalf of Planned Parenthood
The IRS scandal of targeting tea party or conservative organizations grew deeper Wednesday with the revelation that the agency denied tax-exempt status to a pro-life organization because of its hypothetical opposition of Planned Parenthood. The Thomas Moore Society, a public interest law firm announced that one of their clients was told that their approval as a non-profit was conditioned on a commitment not to protest outside Planned Parenthood abortion clinics.
IRS Rejected Group on Behalf of Planned Parenthood.
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I still claim that this fish is rotting and stinks from the head. Just how many conservative groups have been harassed and bullied by low level IRS agents directed from the top and I mean Obama appointees like Tim Geithner.
 
IRS Rejected Group on Behalf of Planned Parenthood
The IRS scandal of targeting tea party or conservative organizations grew deeper Wednesday with the revelation that the agency denied tax-exempt status to a pro-life organization because of its hypothetical opposition of Planned Parenthood. The Thomas Moore Society, a public interest law firm announced that one of their clients was told that their approval as a non-profit was conditioned on a commitment not to protest outside Planned Parenthood abortion clinics.
IRS Rejected Group on Behalf of Planned Parenthood.
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I still claim that this fish is rotting and stinks from the head. Just how many conservative groups have been harassed and bullied by low level IRS agents directed from the top and I mean Obama appointees like Tim Geithner.

Why should a pro-life movement group get a tax exemption?
 
Conservatives need more help citing information to back up their claims, so when you provide their official source, it helps them.



Unfunded pension liabilities are the dark cloud on the horizon of state budgets; a cloud totaling trillions of dollars, as SBS reported this year. Though they represent unavoidable fiscal debt, pension liabilities often slip under the radar when states tally up their spending, thanks to their status as "future payments" and accounting games. Aggressive pension reform is urgently needed in almost every state.

Read more: Pensions > Issues and Solutions > State Budget Solutions

:2wave:

Now, care to get back to the issue, or is your training require you to stick to strawman points?
 
Comic Sans overload... Arial or Helvetica is better for reading.

Conservative groups are not under attack. As far as I know, those with overtly political names were given extra scrutiny when applying for tax exemptions.

See:


IRS admits bias against conservative political groups for tax ...
IRS admits bias against conservative political groups for tax-exempt status | World news | guardian.co.uk

The Guardian6 days ago

May 10, 2013 · "Today's acknowledgement by the Obama administration that the IRS did in fact target conservative groups in ... harassed by the IRS. ... 501 (c) (4) of …

Why deny the facts when people have already admitted it?
 
Why should a pro-life movement group get a tax exemption?
No group should, but since they do, the rules should be applied equally across the political board.
 
:shock:

Really? You really want to do this?

Ok.

California pension liabilities may swell to $328.6 bln -report | Reuters

Bankrupt California city to resume paying pension fund, but not bondholders | Reuters

California cities looking for economic recovery

Despite signs of economic recovery, many parts of the nation's most populous state are feeling a hangover from the collapse of housing prices, prolonged high unemployment and resulting declines in revenue. They are confronting soaring demands for spending on public workers' pensions and retiree health care while slashing services, rolling back pay and laying off cops, firefighters and other workers.


So?

So where's the pie chart showing what percentage of the state's debt comprises pension spending?

Pretty silly to say that pension funds have "decimated" state coffers if they don't comprise the bulk of the debt, eh? :rolleyes:

But we'll make it easy for you since you managed to actually cite something at all (a major 1st for a conservative!)--here's actual figures from the State of California's Governor's 2013 - 2014 Budget. . .

http://www.dof.ca.gov/documents/FullBudgetSummary_web2013.pdf

Now look at the debt chart (Fig. INT-03) showing spending needed to cover current debt in the state at the end 2013. Deferred payments to CalPERS (public employee pension system for CA) will be $ 0.4 billion, whereas total payment to service debt in 2013 will be $27.8 billion.

So 0.4/28.8 = 0.013 = 1.3%

An obligation comprising 1.3% of total debt payments isn't exactly the one breaking the bank, is it ? ?

penn1954 said:
You are so busted !!!

Since when do we get in troubling for humiliating righties? is that a new forum rule?
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Because a pro-abortion one does?

Hello, clownboy. :2wave:

On what basis did BHO's Kenyan brother get fast-track approval for his application, ahead of groups that had been waiting a long time? :shock:
 
No group should, but since they do, the rules should be applied equally across the political board.

You are incorrect. Some groups are eligible for a tax exemption, but purely political groups are not.
 
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