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    Re: Acting IRS commissioner resigns in wake of agency scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    The real reason why this was odd is that tea party groups are generally too dumb to know how to avoid paying taxes, so targeting them is plain stupid.

    After all, the very fact that they tried to apply for tax-exempt status in an attempt to avoid the IRS tells you those organizations are naive.

    The best tax avoiders do it illegally.
    Besides bait...whats the purpose of this mess of a post?

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    Just for the sake of discussion assume the IG's report is absolutely correct, the IRS focused singularly on 'right leaning' organizations AND it was done by 1-2 employees. What would ones motivation be to do this/what did they hope to gain? I cannot figure this out. Presumably they knew that what the were doing were against some policy somewhere and jeopardize their employment. Folks just don't do things like this 'just to do it'.
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    Re: Acting IRS commissioner resigns in wake of agency scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Uhh...I think you need to look again:

    501(c)4:

    2009: 1751
    2010: 1735
    2011: 2265
    2012: 3357

    That's right there from the table you told me to look at.
    Why did you not include the c3's? From the report "The criteria in the BOLO listing were Tea Party organizations applying for I.R.C. 501(c)(3) or I.R.C. 501(c)(4) status." The IG report included them as being 'discriminated against'. Further, the c3 donations are tax deductible, c4's are not.

    I think there's probably context missing there. If these groups didn't have to file with the IRS, why did they?

    Something seems a little off there, but it's too late right now to figure out what it is.
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    Re: Acting IRS commissioner resigns in wake of agency scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Just for the sake of discussion assume the IG's report is absolutely correct, the IRS focused singularly on 'right leaning' organizations AND it was done by 1-2 employees. What would ones motivation be to do this/what did they hope to gain? I cannot figure this out. Presumably they knew that what the were doing were against some policy somewhere and jeopardize their employment. Folks just don't do things like this 'just to do it'.
    I suspect there's more to this than what's being told in the mainstream media. I doubt Obama himself cares to target those groups, because they have little or no money.

    So the only people that could be ultimately behind all this (if there were someone at the top pulling the strings) are those that would have the ethical gall to steal from those who have little. And that, of course, implies the GOP establishment.

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    Re: Acting IRS commissioner resigns in wake of agency scandal

    they have little or no money
    LOL!

    as if mr miller was after the money

    In the 27 months that the Internal Revenue Service put a hold on all Tea Party applications for non-profit status, it approved applications from similar liberal groups, a USA TODAY review of IRS data shows.

    As applications from conservative groups sat in limbo, groups with obviously liberal names were approved in as little as nine months. With names including words like "Progress" or "Progressive," these groups applied for the same tax status and were engaged in the same kinds of activities as the conservative groups.
    USAToday: IRS gave liberals a pass; Tea Party groups put on hold

    what an idiot

    obama, i mean

    this is what happens when ones words to links ratio exceeds 5000

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    Re: Acting IRS commissioner resigns in wake of agency scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Why did you not include the c3's?
    Because this is not about the 501(c)3. This is about the handling of 501(c)4.

    The applications in question were processed by an office in Cincinnati that handles most applications for 501(c)(4) status and had seen the number of applications rise sharply beginning in 2010, the year of the Supreme Court's Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission ruling, which blessed unlimited campaign spending by corporations. Tax-exempt groups became a popular channel for the new wave of political spending.
    Obama: Alleged IRS political targeting 'outrageous' - CNN.com

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    Re: Acting IRS commissioner resigns in wake of agency scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    LOL!

    as if mr miller was after the money



    USAToday: IRS gave liberals a pass; Tea Party groups put on hold

    what an idiot

    obama, i mean

    this is what happens when ones words to links ratio exceeds 5000
    What makes you think Obama was behind it?

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    Re: Acting IRS commissioner resigns in wake of agency scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Besides bait...whats the purpose of this mess of a post?
    The facts of life is not bait--ignorant individuals don't know how to beat the system, and are therefore not worth targeting, period..

    Anyone with an ounce of noodle who truly wanted to avoid the IRS would never raise suspicion by applying for tax-exempt status, which is certainly difficult to get legally.

    It's common knowledge that tea party groups harbor mostly poor, uneducated folks, i. e. not the kind of individuals that could or would scam the IRS out of millions; since they applied for tax-exempt status, it tells you they're honest/innocent.

    So I'm not criticizing them; I'm defending them by stating that they're simply too naive to be a credible threat to the IRS, and therefore should not be targeted.

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    Re: Acting IRS commissioner resigns in wake of agency scandal

    It's common knowledge
    the moral and intellectual equivalent of racism

    party on, aunt polly

    meanwhile, for the adults, abc today:

    IRS Suspicion Widens: GOP Donors Question Audits - ABC News

    there will be no avoiding the appointment of a special prosecutor

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    Re: Acting IRS commissioner resigns in wake of agency scandal

    IRS exec got $42k in bonuses in three years | WashingtonExaminer.com

    won't even cover her legal bills

    let alone the price of cigarettes in jail

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