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    Re: Acting IRS commissioner resigns in wake of agency scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Where did I read recently that it has been shown that only liberals are able to hold two diametrically opposing thoughts simultaneously, and depending on which Party is being discussed at the moment is the determining factor in which thought is expressed? The old "it's okay when we do it" syndrome. I will have to find that article. It sure cleared things up for me!
    I may be recovering. I'm thinking it was something by Jonah Goldberg.

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    Re: Acting IRS commissioner resigns in wake of agency scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Normally I ignore those incapable of thoughtful dialog. You're certainly going to be up near the top.

    Why are you putting out BS from the liberal/progressive Jerry Brown, rather than actual facts? You're posting a proposed budget, and trying to sell it as fact?

    Here are some facts you appear proud to be ignorant about.

    California Pension Liabilities Raise Debt Uncertainty

    The report examined multiple sectors of government spending, including the ‘wall of debt’ (coined by Governor Jerry Brown), unemployment insurance, and various obligation and revenue bonds. When these factors are added up, the state government’s debt is an estimated $132.6 billion.

    Additional analysis shows California’s K-12 public schools hold about $49.7 billion in bond debt, city governments hold $68.1 billion, and county governments hold $22.1 billion. When taken together along with California’s other state and local government entities, debts reached over $850 billion. Following additional adjustments, which accounted for more conservative growth, outstanding debt reached into the trillions.

    The culprit cited by CPPC is the state’s ballooning pension liabilities. The key lynchpin here being the estimated investment return rate. Historically, an average annual return of 7.5 percent would be considered appropriate, yet a much more conservative rate of 5.5 percent or lower is considered by CPPC to be much more accurate.


    Here is a link to the Public Employee Union legislation Calpers got the Democrats to enslave California with.

    David Crane: California's Pension Fiasco and the Great Nondisclosure of 1999 - WSJ.com

    Now, do you plan to comment on the various bankrupt cities that were cited in the links I provided, or do you plan add to the mountain of foolishness you've been posting?
    Excellent post!

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    Re: Acting IRS commissioner resigns in wake of agency scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Their primary cause is providing health care.
    You mean mamograms ? How benign and innocuos.

    Bless their little helpful hearts.

    When did Health Care and the murdering of the most innocent and helpless become synonymous ?

    Oh, nevermind, I know when.

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    Re: Acting IRS commissioner resigns in wake of agency scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    I may be recovering. I'm thinking it was something by Jonah Goldberg.
    I just looked him up and I believe you're right! I may have to buy his book!

    David Oshinsky of the New York Times, in reviewing the book, writes "Liberal Fascism is less an expose of Left Wing hypocrisy than a chance to exact political revenge."

    He has apparently pegged it! At least he's rational in his explanation of what apparently motivates the Left Wing fringe!

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    Re: Acting IRS commissioner resigns in wake of agency scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    I'm glad he resigned. He should have never apologized to the tea party types. Instead he should have called for investigation of Bush-era use of the IRS against progressive groups and named names.
    BFD, he resigned three weeks before the new permanent Commissioner was scheduled to take over that position.

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    Re: Acting IRS commissioner resigns in wake of agency scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Their primary cause is providing health care.
    No, that's the main org, Planned Parenthood itself. PPAF is the political action arm and is also tax exempt.

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    Re: Acting IRS commissioner resigns in wake of agency scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Lobbying for their cause IS their primary purpose. That's political activity.
    Just to satisfy my inner geek. Planned Parenthood has two branches. The Planned Parenthood Federation of America (PPFA) and the Planned Parenthood Action Fund (PPAF). When we talk about Planned Parenthood we're talking about PPFA.

    PPFA is a 501(c)(3) organization. That means that not only are they tax exempt, but donations to PPFA are also tax exempt. PPFA is not allowed to engage in any significant politicking. PPAF is also a non-profit, but it is a non-profit 527 PAC. That means that it is allowed to engage in as much politicking as it likes, but it has to publicly post its donors.

    Neither branch is a 501(c)(4) which sits somewhere in between a 527 and a 501(c)(3).
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    Re: Acting IRS commissioner resigns in wake of agency scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    It is a point to ponder.

    I do not doubt there was targeting of conservative groups. My feelings on this though are there is nothing wrong with targeting groups who are trying to file against the rules. Let's just make sure we're getting all of them, not some of them.

    I wait for the day where you respond to me with something relevant to the discussion. It hasn't happened yet, but I certainly believe you can do it if you just give it a chance.
    Today, in his joint press conference with the Turkish Prime Minister, BHO was asked a question that gave him the opportunity to say that no one in the White House had known about IRS harassment of conservatives. BHO studiously avoided doing that. This is the gift that keeps on giving.
    "It's always reassuring to find you've made the right enemies." -- William J. Donovan

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    Re: Acting IRS commissioner resigns in wake of agency scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Today, in his joint press conference with the Turkish Prime Minister, BHO was asked a question that gave him the opportunity to say that no one in the White House had known about IRS harassment of conservatives. BHO studiously avoided doing that. This is the gift that keeps on giving.
    Of all the scandals erupting now, this one is truly bipartisan in its nature...few in either party are fond of the IRS!

    Good evening, Jack.

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    Re: Acting IRS commissioner resigns in wake of agency scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Of all the scandals erupting now, this one is truly bipartisan in its nature...few in either party are fond of the IRS!

    Good evening, Jack.
    Good evening, Polgara.
    "It's always reassuring to find you've made the right enemies." -- William J. Donovan

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