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    Scientists Clone Human Embryo for the First Time

    Scientists have managed to overcome an incredible hurdle that has confounded researchers since Dolly 15 years ago. But researchers from Oregon seem to have finally confirmed (it's not a South Korean hoax this time!) that they have advanced a cloned cell past the stymied 6-12 stage into a 150 cell blastocyst which is enough to serve as a source/reservoir for embryonic stem cells. This is an extraordinary development, and I for one am excited!

    Scientists Clone Human Embryos To Make Stem Cells : Shots - Health News : NPR
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    Re: Scientists Clone Human Embryo for the First Time

    How long until we can harvest a liver from our own clone in captivity?

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    Re: Scientists Clone Human Embryo for the First Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Scientists have managed to overcome an incredible hurdle that has confounded researchers since Dolly 15 years ago. But researchers from Oregon seem to have finally confirmed (it's not a South Korean hoax this time!) that they have advanced a cloned cell past the stymied 6-12 stage into a 150 cell blastocyst which is enough to serve as a source/reservoir for embryonic stem cells. This is an extraordinary development, and I for one am excited!

    Scientists Clone Human Embryos To Make Stem Cells : Shots - Health News : NPR
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    wow if all that is true and accurate thats absolutely amazing!

    Its absolutely awesome!!!!
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    Re: Scientists Clone Human Embryo for the First Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    How long until we can harvest a liver from our own clone in captivity?
    You do know that organs can be grown on their own right? That is a technology that presently exists. And it's much cheaper and easier than making and keeping a whole person for that purpose. Sure, that would make a cool dystopian sci-fi story (I'd be surprised if Ursula K. Le Guin hasn't already written it, and there was that movie The Island), and it might have been a really ugly reality if slavery were still around and you could buy someone literally just to kill them and harvest their organs (actually, I wouldn't be surprised if that happens in places in the world), but there's nothing about cloning people that necessarily leads to that sort of abuses. Not any more than having a child through sex would.

    This could be a really cool advancement and lead to further understanding of the nuances of human genetics, including eradicating genetic diseases. We might even be able to essentially modify the human species to make us longer lived, healthier, stronger, and smarter. This is a step in taking control of our evolution. Screw natural selection, we're going to intelligently design ourselves.
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    Re: Scientists Clone Human Embryo for the First Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Scientists have managed to overcome an incredible hurdle that has confounded researchers since Dolly 15 years ago. But researchers from Oregon seem to have finally confirmed (it's not a South Korean hoax this time!) that they have advanced a cloned cell past the stymied 6-12 stage into a 150 cell blastocyst which is enough to serve as a source/reservoir for embryonic stem cells. This is an extraordinary development, and I for one am excited!

    Scientists Clone Human Embryos To Make Stem Cells : Shots - Health News : NPR
    BBC News - Home
    Sweet. Now we just need to work out consciousness/memory transfer so that I can move into a 25 year old version of my body every 20 years or so.

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    Re: Scientists Clone Human Embryo for the First Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Screw natural selection, we're going to intelligently design ourselves.
    This sentence REALLY gives me the willies.

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    Re: Scientists Clone Human Embryo for the First Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    This sentence REALLY gives me the willies.
    It doesn't excite you? It sounds pretty awesome to me. I don't want to turn this into an evolution vs creation argument at all, but one of the biggest arguments against intelligent design is that we're not really designed very well. Many living creatures have all kinds of redundancies and weaknesses as a result of the gradual change from evolution via natural election. Not having to rely on that kind of gradual change and overcoming those weaknesses could turn us into the superhuman beings that people have dreamed about for thousands of years. We could all be Hercules. We could delete the appendix from our genetic code. We could give ourselves a more robust immune system that could fight off HIV with ease. How awesome would it be just to fix our vulnerability to astigmatisms and give everyone 20/20 vision? Obviously, "we" refers to future generations. You can't really change a living creature's genetics for the better. At least we can't now.

    We can create a human race that is much more protected against the natural dangers of the world, that lives in its physical and mental prime for two hundred years, doesn't suffer from cancers or diabetes, and never again is a child born with Down Syndrome. How can that be frightening and not fill you with hope and excitement?
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    Re: Scientists Clone Human Embryo for the First Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    It doesn't excite you? It sounds pretty awesome to me. I don't want to turn this into an evolution vs creation argument at all, but one of the biggest arguments against intelligent design is that we're not really designed very well. Many living creatures have all kinds of redundancies and weaknesses as a result of the gradual change from evolution via natural election. Not having to rely on that kind of gradual change and overcoming those weaknesses could turn us into the superhuman beings that people have dreamed about for thousands of years. We could all be Hercules. We could delete the appendix from our genetic code. We could give ourselves a more robust immune system that could fight off HIV with ease. How awesome would it be just to fix our vulnerability to astigmatisms and give everyone 20/20 vision? Obviously, "we" refers to future generations. You can't really change a living creature's genetics for the better. At least we can't now.

    We can create a human race that is much more protected against the natural dangers of the world, that lives in its physical and mental prime for two hundred years, doesn't suffer from cancers or diabetes, and never again is a child born with Down Syndrome. How can that be frightening and not fill you with hope and excitement?
    This is nothing but trouble. Aren't we forgetting the ultamite law of nature is that we we cannot change what we are born with. If we start altering the genetics of our species, can we really continue to call ourselves human, as we erase or alter the very essence of our existance.

    I may be agnostic but I know that this kind of experimentation always end in tragedy.

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    Re: Scientists Clone Human Embryo for the First Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    Sweet. Now we just need to work out consciousness/memory transfer so that I can move into a 25 year old version of my body every 20 years or so.
    Science fiction writers not withstanding, that will never be possible because of the way the human brain works. Our brains are "built" not downloaded like computer memory.

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    Re: Scientists Clone Human Embryo for the First Time

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Science fiction writers not withstanding, that will never be possible because of the way the human brain works. Our brains are "built" not downloaded like computer memory.
    Dude, it was a joke. Lighten up.

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