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    Re: Bohner who will go to jail in IRS case

    Out.

    Wonder what tomorrow has planned to surprise us with!

    Be well all.

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    Re: Bohner who will go to jail in IRS case

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    i do not know the targeting groups for their politics law. can you state the federal statute for me?
    Hey if you think that's OK then move to Cuba, bye bye.

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    Re: Bohner who will go to jail in IRS case

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The confidentiality of donors lists are protected by law. If a government agency attempts to force an org to expose it's donors, it's a violation of the 4th Amendment, as well as the law that protects the confidentiality of donors lists.
    Actually, the IRS is allowed to investigate the claims of a group applying for 501 tax free status. You do not just get to apply and no one questions the application. It is not in violation of the law to do that. No one in the US has a right to posses my social security number. If you have another person's social security number without permission you are in violation of federal laws regarding identity theft. However, people need to use that number when i apply for things so it is legal for them to use it to do background checks, report my taxes, and many other things. The IRS has a right to use my social security number in their operations. Just like the IRS has a right to process applications for 501 tax free status and investigate them. To go a step further when you apply for that status you actually agree to more scrutiny and more disclosure to the IRS in your application. So not only is it very legal and common process, but the groups were informed of it happening, and they agreed to the terms in the application.

    You do realize you can actually look up the applications and regulations on the IRS site and they clearly state all of this in that section. Or did you just procede on the claims of the idiot republicans who are pretending this was illegal without actually knowing what is illegal?

    Here let me help you with the actual sections and codes regarding what the IRS respects from charitable corporations and those applying.

    Tax Information for Charitable Organizations

    Not against the law.

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    Re: Bohner who will go to jail in IRS case

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's called discrimination.
    Apply it to an actual legal statute. Discrimination is immoral, but it is legal in some cases. Just ask gays who can be discriminated against.

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    Re: Bohner who will go to jail in IRS case

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's called the 4th Amendment. You're free to prove that these donors lists are actually public information and that the IRS forces ALL non-profits to submit a list of all their donors.
    It is called you have no idea because no law was actually broken. Feel free to provide the federal code and prove it. I have already shown the IRS is completely within their right in regards to charitable organizations to evaluate their applications and use financial information provided by their applicants to do so. It is not illegal for the IRS to ask for that information, but it would be wrong for them to share it with the general public. Sort of like how the hospital can have your medical records, but they cannot hand them out to others.

    You are still wrong.

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    Re: Bohner who will go to jail in IRS case

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Hey if you think that's OK then move to Cuba, bye bye.
    read up on the restrictions of section 501 (c) and part 4 and you will find that it is completelyu within the abilities of the IRS to do so. The only thing in question is whether they applied their abilities poorly, not illegally. What they did was still well within the law, and boehner knows it which is why you will never see criminal convictions for this.

    But time will tell with boehner. I am sure you will forget about the trash talk that will never come to much. But feel free and prove me wrong and tell me exactly what charges the people will be facing. That will include the criminal statute that they will be charged with in court. They will not be charged with an amendment. They will not be charged with discrimination. They will be charged with a crime. Crimes have specific statutes which they will reference. Those are the specific laws which are broken. They have legal definitions which the prosecution will have to prove the defendant violated. I want those definitions. if you cannot provide them then it is all a lot of bluster.

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    Re: Bohner who will go to jail in IRS case

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    They just want to believe this so badly...

    But keep rooting for President Biden if it makes you feel better.
    Don't even try that bull****, the IRS admitted they broke the law so Boehner point is right on.
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    Re: Bohner who will go to jail in IRS case

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    It is called you have no idea because no law was actually broken. Feel free to provide the federal code and prove it. I have already shown the IRS is completely within their right in regards to charitable organizations to evaluate their applications and use financial information provided by their applicants to do so. It is not illegal for the IRS to ask for that information, but it would be wrong for them to share it with the general public. Sort of like how the hospital can have your medical records, but they cannot hand them out to others.

    You are still wrong.
    You don't know about ethics laws do you? Those laws that govern federal employees are taken very seriously. You can go to jail for breaking them. Being intentionally impartial while handling legal matters is an ethics violation.
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    Re: Bohner who will go to jail in IRS case

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You don't know about ethics laws do you? Those laws that govern federal employees are taken very seriously. You can go to jail for breaking them. Being intentionally impartial while handling legal matters is an ethics violation.
    Then quote the law where it applies to the IRS and what they have claimed to do. Do not tell me there is a law that is out there that you know of that you cannot look up and tell us about. Laws created are public domain and are well referenced in multiple online references. These are not hidden things that cannot be referenced. If you want an actual answer to your claims, no i do not trust your knowledge. I do not trust you are well educated, nor do i even think of you in a neutral fashion. Your knowledge is faulty from what i have seen and therefor you will need to reference something factual like the actual law if you want me to believe you.

    So please do go on and show us how well educated you are and show us the actual law you are speaking of.

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    Re: Bohner who will go to jail in IRS case

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    read up on the restrictions of section 501 (c) and part 4 and you will find that it is completelyu within the abilities of the IRS to do so. The only thing in question is whether they applied their abilities poorly, not illegally. What they did was still well within the law, and boehner knows it which is why you will never see criminal convictions for this.

    But time will tell with boehner. I am sure you will forget about the trash talk that will never come to much. But feel free and prove me wrong and tell me exactly what charges the people will be facing. That will include the criminal statute that they will be charged with in court. They will not be charged with an amendment. They will not be charged with discrimination. They will be charged with a crime. Crimes have specific statutes which they will reference. Those are the specific laws which are broken. They have legal definitions which the prosecution will have to prove the defendant violated. I want those definitions. if you cannot provide them then it is all a lot of bluster.
    I'm listening to congress grill the IRS guy right now, he is already refusing to answer questions. IRS mission statement is " to enforce the law with fairness and integrity". It appears they violated this big time.

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