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    Re: Bohner who will go to jail in IRS case

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Maybe so, but setting aside certain applications for tax exempt status doesn't equate to a criminal offense. It might be against protocol; you could considering an ethics violation per company policy, but it's not a criminal act. Disposing of said applications or tampering/altering such - now that's an entirely different story.

    Mind you, I'm not saying I agree with what the federal employees did. I'm just saying that based on my understanding of events this doesn't amount to legal prosecution. Yes, folks should be fired for "purposely" showing a bias against one group of applicants over another if that is truly what happened, but it's not criminal. Just bad workplace protocol.
    Forcing NFP's to expose their donors list, that is by law confidential, is illegal.
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    Re: Bohner who will go to jail in IRS case

    I doubt the govt has been small enough for one executive to effectively manage it...ever. It appears a few employees misbehaved. As soon as he was aware he took the proper actions. Are you and Rush really saying Obama should know what every government employee is doing all the time?
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    Or, Obama is far too incompetent to manage the government he's supposed to be running.

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    Re: Bohner who will go to jail in IRS case

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I doubt the govt has been small enough for one executive to effectively manage it...ever. It appears a few employees misbehaved. As soon as he was aware he took the proper actions.
    Did he take the proper actions? Is someone in jail for breaking the law? I haven't heard that yet. All I've heard, is that the chick that ran that division got promoted and they resigned a guy that was resigning in 3 weeks, anyway.


    Are you and Rush really saying Obama should know what every government employee is doing all the time?
    If the CEO of a private company said, "Uh, I didn't know", would you be ok with that? Would you give him a pass?
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    Re: Bohner who will go to jail in IRS case

    I was not aware Obama could put some one in jail. I believe at least a couple are jobless, probably more to follow.
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    Did he take the proper actions? Is someone in jail for breaking the law? I haven't heard that yet. All I've heard, is that the chick that ran that division got promoted and they resigned a guy that was resigning in 3 weeks, anyway.




    If the CEO of a private company said, "Uh, I didn't know", would you be ok with that? Would you give him a pass?
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    Re: Bohner who will go to jail in IRS case

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    The law that was broken was targeting groups for their politics. That should scare you very much, Dem's won't always be in power you know and if the IRS starts doing the bidding of whichever party is in power our democracy is in serious trouble.
    i do not know the targeting groups for their politics law. can you state the federal statute for me?

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    Re: Bohner who will go to jail in IRS case

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's called, The Constitution of The United States.
    What part? What is the actual law that is violated that they will have to charge a person with in court. You cannot just say you broke the constitution of the US. This is not pre-school and all of these guys are lawyers and know you need to prove a person broke a specific statute.

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    Re: Bohner who will go to jail in IRS case

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I was not aware Obama could put some one in jail. I believe at least a couple are jobless, probably more to follow.
    Obama can't, but the DOJ can. Have charges been filed against ANYONE?

    Who are jobless...that weren't fixin' to be bless, anyway?
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    Re: Bohner who will go to jail in IRS case

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    What part? What is the actual law that is violated that they will have to charge a person with in court. You cannot just say you broke the constitution of the US. This is not pre-school and all of these guys are lawyers and know you need to prove a person broke a specific statute.
    The confidentiality of donors lists are protected by law. If a government agency attempts to force an org to expose it's donors, it's a violation of the 4th Amendment, as well as the law that protects the confidentiality of donors lists.
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    Re: Bohner who will go to jail in IRS case

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    i do not know the targeting groups for their politics law. can you state the federal statute for me?
    It's called discrimination.
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    Re: Bohner who will go to jail in IRS case

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    What part? What is the actual law that is violated that they will have to charge a person with in court. You cannot just say you broke the constitution of the US. This is not pre-school and all of these guys are lawyers and know you need to prove a person broke a specific statute.
    It's called the 4th Amendment. You're free to prove that these donors lists are actually public information and that the IRS forces ALL non-profits to submit a list of all their donors.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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