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    Re: DC Turns On Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    The Real Scandal of the IRS probe is that PACs have been abusing the **** out of the tax code and Congress won't do squat about it.
    Congress doesn't have to when one side thinks they are doing something by attacking obama and not putting forth any legislation to stop their PAC scams, and the other side fights with them top pretend they are doing something while not putting forth any legislation to end the PAC scams. Still, until the point where popular vote is no longer the way congress is elected we cannot truly blame PACs and corporations for this happening. We have to blame a gullible populace who is buying into the fake fighting.

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    Re: DC Turns On Obama

    I hope no one I know ever becomes a blind cheerleader like the poster above me.

    As for Nixon, there were plenty of Watergate hearings culminating in the Judicial Committee passing the Articles of Impeachment: Watergate Articles Of Impeachment

    This is why Nixon resigned--because it was inevitable.

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    Re: DC Turns On Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    i am pretty sure you just broke space time with that distortion of reality to try and turn this universe into republican fantasy land. You are not even interested in actually stopping abuses by the IRS, or by any future presidents. this is all about Obama complaints. You are completely fine with the IRS proceeding as normal with no stop to any of these policies just as long as it is not Obama doing them. You don't follow the line to legislation reigning in the IRS, you want to use this to go after obamacare.

    It is just more faux outrage. This is why no one relies on the right to fix any problems. They like the problems because they helped make them. Pretending it is the other guy doesn't actually make the problems go away, but you are too busy being a right wing fanboy you do not see your heroes for what they are. You and lindsey lohan fans have something in common.
    Good morning Tererun.

    Sounds like you have never had any experience dealing with the IRS. And I seriously doubt with an IRS Agent. Those IRS Agents being the gestapo type law enforcement agents who pack a pistol and who think Miranda is a Mexican salsa.

    There's more than a few good stories out there dealing with IRS Agents.

    The one I like is the restaurant owner who was behind in is taxes. The IRS agents storm in the restaurant, guns drawn and ordered all of the customers to stop eating their breakfast, that those scrambled eggs they are eating now belong to the U.S. Government and to exit the building. The poor waitress watching all of this picks up a donut and takes a bite out of the donut. One of the IRS Agents confronts the waitress and threatens her with arrest because she's eating government property.

    I wonder what a family of four who don't want to sign up for Obama Care because at $20,000 per year it would mean that little Mary Ann can no longer attend ballet dance school, little Billy can't participate in Pop Warner football and dad has to give up going out on the sport fishing party boats on Saturdays.

    I guess if mom and dad are Democrats, the IRS will just garnish their wages. If they are Republicans IRS Agents will kick in their front door at 5:00 A.M. in the morning and confiscate the HD flat screen TV, the family's car, dads fishing rods and the coffee pot.

    Does anyone know if you refuse to sign up for Obama Care, are you a felon ? If you get convicted of tax invasion your a felon and you can't exercise your Second Amendment Rights and possess any guns.

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    Re: DC Turns On Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    What's the connection between the IRS scandal and Obama?
    We don't know what may turn up. Do we.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    We don't know what may turn up. Do we.
    Please tell me that's not actually your theory on the "connection."

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    Re: DC Turns On Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Congress doesn't have to when one side thinks they are doing something by
    attacking obama and not putting forth any legislation to stop their PAC scams, and the other side fights with them top pretend they are doing something while not putting forth any legislation to end the PAC scams. Still, until the point where popular vote is no longer the way congress is elected we cannot truly blame PACs and corporations for this happening. We have to blame a gullible populace who is buying into the fake fighting.
    There is no one more gullible than your average Obama supporter.

    Even in the midst of 3 scandals you apologize for him.

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    Re: DC Turns On Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Please tell me that's not actually your theory on the "connection."
    Here's my theory.

    We KNOW Max Baucus asked the head of the IRS to investigate Conservative non-profits in 2010.

    We know Chuck Schumer wrote a letter to the head of the IRS in 2012 with 6 Democrat signatures asking for investigations into the Conservative non -profits

    We also KNOW Obama is a liar.

    The IRSs specific investigations based on political ideology are not isolated down to a couple of office workers who were trying to speed up the process, they are a matter of IRS policy.

    Who has that kind of power to change their policy ?

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    Re: DC Turns On Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    There is no one more gullible than your average Obama supporter.

    Even in the midst of 3 scandals you apologize for him.
    You guys are building yourselves up into the same tizzy as you were leading up to the 2012 election. What you seem to be so slow to learn is that when everything is a scandal, nothing is a scandal. That's not because nothing is actually a legitimate scandal, it's just that the real ones end up getting buried in noise that is ultimately indistinguishable from hysteria and conspiracy theories. The end result is people stop paying attention of fatigue and just roll their eyes.

    There's a reason why "choose your battles wisely" is wisdom.

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    Re: DC Turns On Obama

    By the way, I believe the AP scandal is a legitimate scandal. But you guys have been going on for so long now that it's hard for me not to roll my eyes and I believe it's a legitimate scandal!

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    Re: DC Turns On Obama

    [QUOTE=Fenton;1061809973]
    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    What's the connection between the IRS scandal and Obama? [/
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    First, mitigating the scandal by lying about the IRS scandal, about who was actually at fault implies that the change was made at a much higher level.

    Max Baucus wrote the IRS a letter in 2010, stating they should look after these Conservative groups.

    Chuck Shcumer wrote a letter in 2012, with 6 signatures from Democrats, one being Al Frankin.

    This was a policy adjustment.
    These groups should have been investigated and they did not deserve to get 501(c)(4) status. These are not social welfare organizations, they are clearly PACs that should have filed as 527s. This was done not for tax status, (you get the exact same status as a 527), but to hide their donors. What we're looking at is a concerted effort to launder money into the political process by both right and leftwing organizations.

    Saying that these groups are not political is like saying that the DNC and RNC are just Social Welfare organizations with missions to educate voters about the evils of the other side. They're political organizations. I mean, if you use Tea Party in your name... kind of by definition you're a political organization.

    The problem isn't that these groups were targeted, the problem is that the criteria used select them was politically biased. It's not that they were unfairly targeted, its' that other liberal groups may have been unfairly NOT targeted.


    Also, this was all overseen by a Republican nominated by Bush.

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