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    Re: DC Turns On Obama

    What's the connection between the IRS scandal and Obama?

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    Re: DC Turns On Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Iran-Contra,
    Valerie Plame, etc...

    Even if the absolute worst was true of Obama, I would say the right's performance has been underwhelming enough that nobody has to impress them.
    Bwahahahahah !!!!

    Valerie Plames.....oh Bull Sh**.

    Your President has to focus on Benghazie, as his Sec of State lied directly to the Father of the Seal, IRS targeting Conservatives after their "apology" Friday was found to be a full on lie, and illegal wire tapping.

    Hey, 4 people died and your President lied about it.

    Do you care ?

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    Re: DC Turns On Obama

    [QUOTE=Cardinal;1061809950]What's the connection between the IRS scandal and Obama? [/
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    First, mitigating the scandal by lying about the IRS scandal, about who was actually at fault implies that the change was made at a much higher level.

    Max Baucus wrote the IRS a letter in 2010, stating they should look after these Conservative groups.

    Chuck Shcumer wrote a letter in 2012, with 6 signatures from Democrats, one being Al Frankin.

    This was a policy adjustment.

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    Re: DC Turns On Obama

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    What's the connection between the IRS scandal and Obama? [/
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    First, mitigating the scandal by lying about the IRS scandal, about who was actually at fault implies that the change was made at a much higher level.

    Max Baucus wrote the IRS a letter in 2010, stating they should look after these Conservative groups.

    Chuck Shcumer wrote a letter in 2012, with 6 signatures from Democrats, one being Al Frankin.

    This was a policy adjustment.
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    Re: DC Turns On Obama

    today:

    Very rarely do you hear Harry Reid call out the Obama administration, but the Democratic Senate majority leader had tough words for both the scandal-plagued Department of Justice and the Internal Revenue Service on Tuesday.

    “I have trouble defending what the Justice Department did,” Reid told reporters during his weekly press availability off the Senate floor, referencing the revelation that the DOJ had secretly obtained two months worth of telephone records of Associated Press employees in 2012.

    “I really believe in the First Amendment,” Reid continued. “I think it’s one of the great things we have as a country. And I don’t know who did it or why it was done. But it’s inexcusable. And there’s no way to justify it.”

    The Nevada Democrat also took aim at the IRS for its acknowledgment last week that it had specifically targeted tea party and conservative groups.

    “What the IRS did, of course, was inexcusable,” Reid said.

    He went on to make the point that this isn’t “the first time we’ve seen this” from the IRS, specifically mentioning how liberal organizations like the NAACP and Greenpeace have been “inappropriately targeted” in the past. He criticized Republicans for not being upset at those examples.

    “Where was their outrage when groups from the other side of the political spectrum were under attack?” Reid said.
    Reid slams Obama admin: I have trouble defending what the DOJ did

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    Re: DC Turns On Obama

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post

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    Re: DC Turns On Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    At least they found a new scandal to latch onto. This one is much better anyway, because no one likes the IRS so associating obama with that ends up being much better for them. Still nothing on the illegal front for obama, but this will certainly make sure he doesn't get elected next time. you guys have totally stopped his chances in 2016. Congratulations you have done well, and all of that effort has been well worth this hard won victory for you.
    Remember Tererun, it's the IRS who will be regulating Obama Care.

    Why is that ?

    >" Get ready for the Internal Revenue Service to play a dominant role in health care. When Obamacare takes full effect next year, the agency will enforce most of the laws involved in the reform—even deciding who gets included in the health-care mandate.

    "The impact of the IRS on health-care reform is huge," said Paul Hamburger, a partner and employee benefits lawyer at Proskauer.

    "Other agencies like Social Security will be checking for mistakes, but the IRS is the key enforcer," Hamburger said. "It's also going to help manage who might get health care." In its 5-4 ruling last year, the Supreme Court upheld the law's mandate that Americans have health insurance, saying that Congress can enforce the mandate under its taxing authority and through the IRS.

    As a result, the agency has to administer 47 tax provisions under Obamacare. They include the right to levy a penalty against businesses and individuals who don't provide or acquire insurance. Noting that the IRS will collect the penalties, the decision labeled them a tax. "< When It Comes to Health-Care Reform, the IRS Rules

    This makes this IRS targeting conservatives even scarier.

    I've heard the term IRS Agents used. Even cops fear these gun packing IRS Agents.

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    Re: DC Turns On Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    At least they found a new scandal to latch onto. This one is much better anyway, because no one likes the IRS so associating obama with that ends up being much better for them. Still nothing on the illegal front for obama, but this will certainly make sure he doesn't get elected next time. you guys have totally stopped his chances in 2016. Congratulations you have done well, and all of that effort has been well worth this hard won victory for you.
    The Real Scandal of the IRS probe is that PACs have been abusing the **** out of the tax code and Congress won't do squat about it.
    "If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him." - Sun Tzu

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    Re: DC Turns On Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Remember Tererun, it's the IRS who will be regulating Obama Care.
    i am pretty sure you just broke space time with that distortion of reality to try and turn this universe into republican fantasy land. You are not even interested in actually stopping abuses by the IRS, or by any future presidents. this is all about Obama complaints. You are completely fine with the IRS proceeding as normal with no stop to any of these policies just as long as it is not Obama doing them. You don't follow the line to legislation reigning in the IRS, you want to use this to go after obamacare.

    It is just more faux outrage. This is why no one relies on the right to fix any problems. They like the problems because they helped make them. Pretending it is the other guy doesn't actually make the problems go away, but you are too busy being a right wing fanboy you do not see your heroes for what they are. You and lindsey lohan fans have something in common.

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    Re: DC Turns On Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Bwahahahahah !!!!

    Valerie Plames.....oh Bull Sh**.

    Your President has to focus on Benghazie, as his Sec of State lied directly to the Father of the Seal, IRS targeting Conservatives after their "apology" Friday was found to be a full on lie, and illegal wire tapping.

    Hey, 4 people died and your President lied about it.

    Do you care ?
    Not sure why betraying an American spy to silence their spouse's opposition to your government is a light matter when a rank-and-file member of the Administration (Scooter Libby) had to be offered up as a sacrifice to prevent the higher-ups (Bush and Cheney) from taking the fall. At least in that case something that was actually illegal happened.

    My attitude toward C-Level political corruption is one of neutral acceptance. At worst there were some sleazy abuses of procedure. And the right-wing has responded with some sleazy abuses of procedure of their own.

    No, as I have said before, I find it difficult to care about a political dog fight between two sides that are morally equal.
    Last edited by Morality Games; 05-15-13 at 03:59 AM.
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