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White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

You guys are such poor readers, that projection on unemployment was made prior to January of 2009, before anyone anticipated continuing layoffs and an economy that would be much slower in recovery. The point was, of course, that the ARRA did make a fair impact on unemployment no matter what total unemployment actually was.

And if you guys REALLY want to get into projections on economic performance....I can do that too...

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Published: January 31, 2001
Even before the budget office disclosed the new surplus figures, administration officials said that President Bush's plan for a $1.6 trillion tax cut over the next decade and his calls for more spending on the military, health care and education could all be accommodated comfortably without any risk to the government's fiscal health.

''We are seeing a government that is awash in surplus money, even with an economy that is softening from where it used to be,'' Ari Fleischer, the White House spokesman, said.

Speaking after a meeting with Republican leaders at the White House, Mr. Bush said, ''Taxes must fit into a budget, which they will.''

The budget office's projections suggested that the government would be able to pay off as much of the national debt held by the public as is possible to redeem easily -- all but about $800 billion of the total $3.4 trillion in debt held by the public -- within the next decade.
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SURPLUS ESTIMATE HITS $5.6 TRILLION - NYTimes.com

Which just goes to show that you pay no attention to anything that refutes your misinformation as once again you divert from the thread topic and ignore reality. Budgets project deficits but budgets aren't spending bills. Further TARP was a loan not an expense. Still waiting for why repayment wasn't applied to the Bush deficit? Further still waiting for an explanation as to whether or not a discouraged worker which exceeded 1.3 trillion a month in 2010 are unemployed people? Since they aren't counted guess they aren't and guess that 1.3 million is less than 750,000 in the liberal world since 750,000 is the liberal talking point as the 1.3 million discouraged on top of the counted unemployed is ignored.

By the way do you know what actually makes up the debt? Let me help you, public debt PLUS intergovt. holdings=debt and what we pay debt service on. I guess 250 billion a year isn't a big deal for you since it is someone else's money.
 
Which just goes to show that you pay no attention to anything that refutes your misinformation as once again you divert from the thread topic and ignore reality. Budgets project deficits but budgets aren't spending bills. Further TARP was a loan not an expense. Still waiting for why repayment wasn't applied to the Bush deficit? Further still waiting for an explanation as to whether or not a discouraged worker which exceeded 1.3 trillion a month in 2010 are unemployed people? Since they aren't counted guess they aren't and guess that 1.3 million is less than 750,000 in the liberal world since 750,000 is the liberal talking point as the 1.3 million discouraged on top of the counted unemployed is ignored.

By the way do you know what actually makes up the debt? Let me help you, public debt PLUS intergovt. holdings=debt and what we pay debt service on. I guess 250 billion a year isn't a big deal for you since it is someone else's money.
You start by complaining about my supposed tangent, then go into a tirade of totally off topic tangents....all while you avoid the point made, C. Romer was in favor of the ARRA and wanted it to be bigger, a fact you were wrong about that you brought up.

I totally understand why you keep avoiding your error that started this current discussion.
 
You start by complaining about my supposed tangent, then go into a tirade of totally off topic tangents....all while you avoid the point made, C. Romer was in favor of the ARRA and wanted it to be bigger, a fact you were wrong about that you brought up.

I totally understand why you keep avoiding your error that started this current discussion.

Does it really matter how much she wanted when the reality is what she projected based upon the stimulus passed? Please name for me any economic prediction made by this President that has been accurate and yet he gets a pass? Prof posted the link to the NY Times article, suggest you read it and stop trying to divert from the facts
 
per gallup this morning:

Americans' Support Investigations

"the irs situation is a serious matter that needs to be investigated:" 74% of americans say yes, 56% strongly agree

including 62% of democrats, 76% of indies

"the benghazi situation is a serious matter that needs to be investigated:" 69% say yes, 52% feel that way strongly

49% of dems, 73% of independents

house republicans will make sure the majority get some answers

when it comes to the irs, senate dems will join us

seeya at the hearings---in august
 
Bad news for Republicans hoping to spin bull **** into gold. 3 new polls released today show that Obama's approval rating has actually gone UP two points. Americans are seeing right through the GOP gamesmanship:

The good news
 
republican gold:

BOB SCHIEFFER: When the burglars broke into Democratic Headquarters at the Watergate, a lot of us back then found it hard to believe.

Why would anyone break into a political headquarters? What did they hope to find? Bumper stickers? Yard signs? Nobody is dumb enough to pull a stunt like that.

But they were!

I admit I had about the same reaction when I first heard the IRS had gone after the tea party last year. The tea party? Surely no one could be dumb enough to think you could get away with that in an election year.

But they were! So, welcome to dumb and dumber.

It did take awhile for the news to get to some quarters. We've heard that the President said he didn't find out about it until last week. Last week!

Which qualified him for Washington's fastest-growing club: the longer and longer list of officials who suddenly don't know much about a lot of unpleasant things, from Benghazi to the Associated Press investigation.

At this point, spare me the talking points and the excuses. No matter whether Republicans or Democrats are doing this kind of thing, this stuff is not just wrong, it's really stupid, and it will take more than firing a few temps and low-level bureaucrats to fix it.

Bob Schieffer: "Welcome To Dumb And Dumber" In Washington | RealClearPolitics

schieffer is only following cues pointed out to cbs, exclusively, by the administration itself, which authorized a half dozen or so staffers to whisper on background to tiffany's sharyl attkisson (who's about to lose her job, by the way) that we in this woebegone white house are not corrupt, we're only incompetent

White House Officials on Benghazi: We're the idiots - CBS News

seeya in committee, comrades---in december
 
republican gold:



Bob Schieffer: "Welcome To Dumb And Dumber" In Washington | RealClearPolitics

schieffer is only following cues pointed out to cbs, exclusively, by the administration itself, which authorized a half dozen or so staffers to whisper on background to tiffany's sharyl attkisson (who's about to lose her job, by the way) that we in this woebegone white house are not corrupt, we're only incompetent

White House Officials on Benghazi: We're the idiots - CBS News

seeya in committee, comrades---in december

From Schieffer:

"At this point, spare me the talking points and the excuses. No matter whether Republicans or Democrats are doing this kind of thing, this stuff is not just wrong, it's really stupid, and it will take more than firing a few temps and low-level bureaucrats to fix it.

The president won re-election with a smart political team, but the election is over. Maybe he should look now for people of substance who know about other things who could help him govern." Will President Obama do this?
 
pfeiffer and schieffer, this morning:

DAN PFEIFFER: The point that our Chief of Staff is making is that this is the Republican playbook here which is try, when they don't have a positive agenda, try to drag Washington into a swamp of partisan fishing expeditions, trumped up hearings and false allegations. We're not going to let that distract us and the President from actually doing the people's work and fighting for the middle class.

BOB SCHIEFFER: You know, I don’t want to compare this in any way to Watergate. I do not think this is Watergate by any stretch. But you weren't born then I would guess, but I have to tell you that is exactly the approach that the Nixon administration took. They said, “These are all second-rate things. We don't have time for this. We have to devote our time to the people's business.” You’re taking exactly the same line they did.

more:

SCHIEFFER: But Mr. Pfeiffer, and I don't mean to be argumentative here, but the President is in charge of the executive branch of the government. It’s my, I'll just make this as an assertion: when the executive branch does things right, there doesn't seem to be any hesitancy of the White House to take credit for that. When Osama bin Laden was killed, the President didn't waste any time getting out there and telling people about it.

But with all of these things, when these things happen, you seem to send out officials many times who don't even seem to know what has happened. And I use as an example of that Susan Rice who had no connection whatsoever to the events that took place in Benghazi, and yet she was sent out, appeared on this broadcast, and other Sunday broadcasts, five days after it happens, and I'm not here to get in an argument with you about who changed which word in the talking points and all that. The bottom line is what she told the American people that day bore no resemblance to what had happened on the ground in an incident where four Americans were killed.

But what I'm saying to you is that was just PR. That was just a PR plan to send out somebody who didn't know anything about what had happened. Why did you do that? Why didn't the Secretary of State come and tell us what they knew and if he knew nothing say, “We don't know yet?” Why didn't the White House Chief of Staff come out? I mean I would, and I mean this as no disrespect to you, why are you here today? Why isn't the White House Chief of Staff here to tell us what happened?

Face The Nation - CBS News

the white house doesn't want YOU to know, mr schieffer

it's all irrelevant

stay tuned
 
Does it really matter how much she wanted
I guess not to you NOW....since I showed she wanted MORE....whereas you tried to say she was against it...so yeah, you want to disregard the FACT THAT YOU WERE COMPLETELY WRONG AND WON'T ACCEPT IT.



when the reality is what she projected based upon the stimulus passed?
This makes no sense, what projections did she make that is under discussion? I posted her REVIEW of the ARRA.

Please name for me any economic prediction made by this President that has been accurate and yet he gets a pass?
Ooh! A hunting expedition....for YOU. Look into my eye.


Prof posted the link to the NY Times article, suggest you read it and stop trying to divert from the facts
I did read the Krugman article....from JANUARY OF 2009...BEFORE WE KNEW THE EXTENT OF THE AFTERMATH OF THE BUSH RECESSION EFFECTS ON UNEMPLOYMENT.

Good grief, Ground Hog Day all over again.
 
Bad news for Republicans hoping to spin bull **** into gold. 3 new polls
released today show that Obama's approval rating has actually gone UP two points. Americans are seeing right through the GOP gamesmanship:

The good news

LOL...A CNN poll referenced by a Yahoo link.

Nothing subjective and Partisan about that.

They asked morons who think Benghazi is a Ala Carte
 
Bad news for Republicans hoping to spin bull **** into gold. 3 new polls
released today show that Obama's approval rating has actually gone UP two points. Americans are seeing right through the GOP gamesmanship:

The good news

LOL...A CNN poll referenced by a Yahoo link.

Nothing subjective and Partisan about that.

They asked morons who think Benghazi is Indian Food a la carte what they thought of President when our economy
 
Bad news for Republicans hoping to spin bull **** into gold. 3 new polls
released today show that Obama's approval rating has actually gone UP two points. Americans are seeing right through the GOP gamesmanship:

The good news

LOL...A CNN poll referenced by a Yahoo link.

Nothing subjective and Partisan about that.

They asked left coast morons who think Benghazi is Indian Food a la carte what they thought of President when our economy is currently on life support.

It's a testament to their prevailing institutionalized ignorance that Americans are known for the World over.

Benghazi isn't going away as the WH sent their best liar after what must have been hours of coaching and preparation. His best answer was basically " it was none of our bussiness" where the President was.

The location of the Commander in Chief was instantly " irrelevent" . Funny that, it was extremely relevent when he watched the Bin-Laden raid go down, and bragged about " giving the go ahead order".


It's ok, the IRS scandal JUST started, plenty of commitee hearings and corrupt Democrats put under Oath will change it from a " GOP Conspiracy" to a expose on just how corrupt this administration is.

There are consequences to electing a President because the media told you to so next time take a whole 5 minutes out of your day, enough time to know Obama was a fraud.
 
It's ok, the IRS scandal JUST started, plenty of commitee hearings and corrupt Democrats put under Oath will change it from a " GOP Conspiracy" to a expose on just how corrupt this administration is.

There are consequences to electing a President because the media told you to so next time take a whole 5 minutes out of your day, enough time to know Obama was a fraud.

They might even find a blow job:roll:
 
wapo's dan balz this morning: the big loser is activist govt

Whatever else happens as a result of the multiple controversies that have engulfed the administration, one thing is clear: President Obama has failed to meet one of the most important goals he set out when he was first elected, which was to demonstrate that activist government could also be smart government.

What has happened since Obama laid down that challenge for his administration? More Americans favor smaller government over bigger government than when he was first elected, according to exit polls from last November. Public confidence in the federal government is as low as it has ever been, according to a Pew Research Center survey released this spring.

This weekend, four of the government’s most important agencies are beset by political controversy, management breakdowns or both: State (what happened in Benghazi, Libya), Treasury (targeting of conservative groups by the Internal Revenue Service), Justice (leak-related investigation of the Association Press) and Defense (rising numbers of sexual assaults).

Add to that the questions about Health and Human Services and its implementation of the Affordable Care Act, and it is little wonder confidence has eroded.

Obama bears a particular responsibility for failing to do what he said he had to do, which was to convince the public that he could make the part of government that he directly controls — the executive branch — smarter, more effective and more deserving of trust. To do what he wanted to do through government required building greater confidence in government. Long before the current controversies materialized, he had not been able to do that.

Most controversial has been his health-care initiative. Throughout the long battle to enact and then begin to implement the law, Obama’s White House has been unable to win broad public support for it, even though individual pieces are popular. Obama is still fighting to overcome distrust of government as he proceeds with the most complex change in social welfare policy since the 1960s.

Now the president is dealing with unexpected problems, each of which threatens to make the trust-in-government deficit even bigger.

The most corrosive of the controversies is what happened at the IRS, which singled out tea party and other conservative groups for special scrutiny in their applications for tax-exempt status. That Obama knew nothing about it does little to quell concerns that one of the most-feared units in government was operating out of control.

The multiple failures at the IRS speak of an agency that, at worst, was politically motivated in going after opponents of the president’s agenda and that, at best, showed terrible judgment, lacked vigorous oversight by its managers and misled members of Congress about what was happening.

There is much about the Justice Department’s leak investigation that isn’t known and may not be known, given that it involves national security issues and classified information. But on its face, the collection of telephone records from the Associated Press appears to be so broad that it cannot easily be explained. Because the president, rightly, cannot interfere, he is left mostly helpless in the face of this controversy.

The argument over what happened in Benghazi last Sept. 11 is mired in politics and probably will continue to be. Obama sees the investigation led by Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, as a politically inspired sideshow. Republicans see the administration’s response as a political coverup designed to protect the president and former secretary of state Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Putting aside the controversy over what happened to the administration’s original talking points as they evolved amid bureaucratic wrangling, what actually happened in Benghazi was a breakdown in security that reflected badly on the administration. Wherever the congressional investigation leads, the findings of the State Department’s internal investigation, which cited “systemic failures and leadership and management deficiencies,” stand as harsh criticism of what happened on Obama’s and Clinton’s watch.

The full political impact of what is unfolding now may not be clear until closer to the 2014 elections. Obama has been damaged, but how much? Republicans are on the offensive but risk overplaying their hand out of deep dislike for this president. But no matter how the electoral politics turn out, Obama’s goal of creating confidence in bigger government has taken a big hit.

Obama's trust-in-government deficit - The Washington Post

he's killing keynes
 
Gimmesometruth;1061827575]I guess not to you NOW....since I showed she wanted MORE....whereas you tried to say she was against it...so yeah, you want to disregard the FACT THAT YOU WERE COMPLETELY WRONG AND WON'T ACCEPT IT.

Wrong about what, her claim that unemployment with the passed stimulus wouldn't go about 8%? Wrong about all the predictions made by Obama that haven't come true? What is it about Obama that creates this kind of loyalty? Have you no pride at all? Prof has provided you with the links but you are so brainwashed that you ignore the actual facts to continue allowing Obama to make a fool out of you. No wonder this country is in a mess.

This makes no sense, what projections did she make that is under discussion? I posted her REVIEW of the ARRA.

Read the NY Times article and then get back to me. It doesn't do any good to post actual quotes from Romer because you just ignore them just like you ignore the entire Obama economic performance.

Ooh! A hunting expedition....for YOU. Look into my eye.

Good thing you are in business for yourself with no employees for you cannot fire yourself for poor performance. You simply have no concept of the private sector and how people are judged based upon performance in the private sector. You wouldn't last two years with the numbers Obama has generated.


I did read the Krugman article....from JANUARY OF 2009...BEFORE WE KNEW THE EXTENT OF THE AFTERMATH OF THE BUSH RECESSION EFFECTS ON UNEMPLOYMENT.

Good grief, Ground Hog Day all over again.

Isn't that amazing, GW Bush did all this by himself with a Democrat controlled Congress that let him do it and the smartest man ever to hold the office was in that Congress allowing him to do it. It is quite shocking that someone so smart in the legislative branch had no idea how bad the economy was when he took over, an economy that came out of recession in June 2009 before the smartest individual ever to hold the office had his shovels arrive for shovel ready jobs.
 
They might even find a blow job:roll:

Hmmm....I don't think that Obama is hiding a floozy in the Oval office bathroom, Michelle would kill him. But if he takes the path of lying to a Judge about anything, then you have the same thing that you are so ineptly referencing here.
 
LOL...A CNN poll referenced by a Yahoo link.

Nothing subjective and Partisan about that.

They asked morons who think Benghazi is a Ala Carte

Face it Fenton....America didn't buy it the first 133 times that FauxNews and the Repubs tried to spin this bull **** into gold....you guys shouldn't be too surprised that the 134th time had the same results. Then again....that IS the mantra of the Republican party: Keep trying the same failed things and expect different results.
 
They might even find a blow job:roll:

Clinton was a low life because he cheated on the first lady at the time and lied.

He's a criminal because he perjured himself.
 
Face it Fenton....America didn't buy it the first 133 times that FauxNews and the Repubs tried to spin this bull **** into gold....you guys shouldn't be too surprised that the 134th time had the same results. Then again....that IS the mantra of the Republican party: Keep trying the same failed things and expect different results.

I am shocked, I tell you, shocked, that liberals have such low standards and expectations from a Democrat President. I am sure that is exactly how you operate in real life as results don't actually matter. we have an enemy under a terrorist attack and the President of the United States is in Las Vegas fund raising. He has his priorities right for Obama
 
Face it Fenton....America didn't buy it the first 133 times that FauxNews and the
Repubs tried to spin this bull **** into gold....you guys shouldn't be too surprised that the 134th time had the same results. Then again....that IS the mantra of the Republican party: Keep trying the same failed things and expect different results.

Lol....I don't have to face anything, as this Chicago thug administration keeps digging and digging itself into a hole. Oh but some guy in Cali desperately trying to mitigate the obvious corruption from the Obama adminisyration says it's a GOP attempt to discredit a sterling administration.

Sorry, no one cares, and eventually the High level WH official that gave the order will be targeted and Obama's lies about being ignorant will be exposed.

So I'm a patient guy, but one things already clear, his Legacy will be akin to Carters....or worse as people look back on these 8 years of Democrat control as the biggest mistake in US history.
 
I am shocked, I tell you, shocked, that liberals have such low standards and expectations from a Democrat President. I am sure that is exactly how you operate in real life as results don't actually matter. we have an enemy under a terrorist attack and the President of the United States is in Las Vegas fund raising. He has his priorities right for Obama

Its a badge of honer for a Dem President to get impeached by the wingers in congross.It means that our gov is in good hands.:thumbs:
 
Its a badge of honer for a Dem President to get impeached by the wingers in congross.It means that our gov is in good hands.:thumbs:

Apparently it is a badge of honor to a Democrat to have a Democrat President lie under oath thus violating the oath he took for the office. Such low standards and expectations thus the support for Obama as well
 
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