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White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

Romney was a much better qualified candidate than Obama but liberals have such low standards and a high probability of being brainwashed that they bought the negative and ignored the resume. Romney has the leadership skills and ability to compromise that Obama will never have. Liberals have low expectations and thus are never disappointed by poor results.

WELL!! Now, we can both agree on this point at least "ability to compromise".HE's a friggen weather-vane that can spin on a dime.:lamo
 
WELL!! Now, we can both agree on this point at least "ability to compromise".HE's a friggen weather-vane that can spin on a dime.:lamo

Your problem is in your world your perception is reality when the reality is compromise is never a weathervane spinning on a dime, it is real discussion, real integrity, and real give and take something Chicago politics will never allow. Like it or not Romney had a very good resume which liberals distorted and Obamabots bought.
 
just how bad are the irs and ap scandals?

in addition to killing 501c reform and making obamacare implementation, already a trainwreck, that much more a crash, the irs and ap scandals have combined to put enlightened visionaries like coffee joe scarborough and piers morgan, albeit reluctantly, aboard black helicopters

LOL!

Morning Joe host Joe Scarborough pointed out that the case for background checks is more problematic in light of the IRS scandals. The host had been, in recent months, an ardent supporter of expanded background checks for firearms purchases, but says that some concerns about increased gun-control measures are more justified after the IRS abused its powers and violated citizens’ privacy when reviewing organizations’ applications.

“My argument is less persuasive today because of these scandals,” he said. “People say, ‘Hey, if they do this with the IRS, asking people what books you read, then how can I trust them with information about my Second Amendment rights?’”

The Huffington Post’s Sam Stein agreed with Scarborough: “I think you’re absolutely right, and I think it feeds into this notion that government is either inept or it’s corrupt.”

Scarborough Says IRS Scandal Makes Gun Background Checks A Little Less Appealing | National Review Online

In light of the IRS targeting conservative groups and the Department of Justice’s seizure of reporters’ phone records, Piers Morgan reversed course and sided with gun advocates who have expressed concerns about an expanding government.

“I’ve had some of the pro-gun lobbyists on here, saying to me, ‘Well, the reason we need to be armed is because of tyranny from our own government,’ and I’ve always laughed at them,” Morgan said last night. “But, actually, this is vaguely tyrannical behavior by the American government.”

Guest Penn Jillette agreed with his assessment: “I think that it shows you that how much we can trust the government and just sit back, which is not very much at all.”

Piers Morgan: Tyrannical Behavior

and that alone should just about make you wanna exit the aircraft

coffee joe, in addition, went on to observe that these big govt-run-amok headlines are equally harmful to immigration reform

and he's right

congratulations

benghazi-ap-irs, beyond a doubt, have killed the nominations of perez at labor, mccarthy at epa and watt at f&f---they were in big trouble already

party on, apologists
 
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Excellent analysis of Obama as CEO of America, Inc and apparently something his supporters do not understand about leadership and responsibilities of leadership. Those of us who actually were in leadership positions understand this far too well.

Obama is failing as CEO of America, Inc. | Fox News
Who in hell wants a CEO as a president, that may be a reason why Mitt Romney lost the election. CEO's are good down sizing and laying people off.
 
just how bad are the irs and ap scandals?

in addition to killing 501c reform and making obamacare implementation, already a trainwreck, that much more a crash, the irs and ap scandals have combined to put enlightened visionaries like coffee joe scarborough and piers morgan, albeit reluctantly, aboard black helicopters

LOL!



Scarborough Says IRS Scandal Makes Gun Background Checks A Little Less Appealing | National Review Online



Piers Morgan: Tyrannical Behavior

and that alone should just about make you wanna exit the aircraft

coffee joe, in addition, went on to observe that these big govt-run-amok headlines are equally harmful to immigration reform

and he's right

congratulations

benghazi-ap-irs, beyond a doubt, have killed the nominations of perez at labor, mccarthy at epa and watt at f&f---they were in big trouble already

party on, apologists
Joe Scarborough & Piers Morgan represent Americans? LOL LOL LOL
 
Who in hell wants a CEO as a president, that may be a reason why Mitt Romney lost the election. CEO's are good down sizing and laying people off.

They are also very good at managing very large enterprises. You're right, who would want a POTUS with that skill. :roll:
 
Joe Scarborough & Piers Morgan represent Americans? LOL LOL LOL

That's how far this admin has screwed the pooch - that we find those two actually representing our views.
 
If that were the case then WHY the ****en clown show that preceded the nomination of someone even more unqualified?ROMNEY! :shock:
Correct, Romney was good at one thing and that was making money for his friends and himself. He sure was a piss-poor candidate which reminds me what he once said was that he wasn't a politician... well no **** Mitt.
 
Your problem is in your world your perception is reality when the reality is compromise is never a weathervane spinning on a dime, it is real discussion, real integrity, and real give and take something Chicago politics will never allow. Like it or not Romney had a very good resume which liberals distorted and Obamabots bought.

YET the friggen WEATHERVANE couldn't beat a dem prez that was presiding over the most unemployed since the great hoover depression...AND HE WAS THE MOST QUALIFIED CLOWN of the clown show.:lamo

When i played baseball we would refer to this as a thin bench.The only one in triple A, on the repug side that i see now that has a chance to beat any dem is Christie.

Paul junior is a lightweight,Paul senior too old.The rest are bench warmers, keepin the bench warm for Christies ample ass.:2wave:
 
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Correct, Romney was good at one thing and that was making money for his friends and himself. He sure was a piss-poor candidate which reminds me what he once said was that he wasn't a politician... well no **** Mitt.

Yeah, because Romney didn't have any governing experience did he? Oh wait that was Obama. :mrgreen:
 
Who in hell wants a CEO as a president, that may be a reason why Mitt Romney lost the election. CEO's are good down sizing and laying people off.

LOL, it is a good thing that you never held a leadership position because you have no idea what their job and responsibilities are. That is why you have no problem with anything Obama is doing. Your opinion noted as is your total lack of understanding of the job of a leader thus the President of the United States.
 
YET the friggen WEATHERVANE couldn't beat a dem prez that was presiding over the most unemployed since the great hoover depression...AND HE WAS THE MOST QUALIFIED CLOWN of the clown show.:lamo

When i played baseball we would refer to this as a thin bench.The only one in triple A, on the repug side that i see now that has a chance to beat any dem is Christie.

Paul junior is a lightweight,Paul senior too old.The rest are bench warmers, keepin the bench warm or Christie ample ass.:2wave:

No he couldn't because people bought the rhetoric and the Obama hype continuing to do that. In today's world of 24/7 media perception is more reality than actual resume and results. People continue to buy the Obama rhetoric and ignore the Obama results just like they ignored the Obama rhetoric and bought the leftwing spin about Romney. We are paying the price today for that ignorance.
 
Yeah, because Romney didn't have any governing experience did he? Oh wait that was Obama. :mrgreen:

Hey, being a community agitator is a tough job. That job provided him a lot of executive and leadership skills. Just ask any Obamabot
 
Yeah, because Romney didn't have any governing experience did he? Oh wait that was Obama. :mrgreen:

LOL Last November, President Obama had almost 4 years as President of the United States.
 
LOL Last November, President Obama had almost 4 years as President of the United States.


Yes, and results that didn't deserve anyone's support and yet Obamabots still bought the rhetoric ignoring the results.
 
LOL Last November, President Obama had almost 4 years as President of the United States.

And what wonders he had worked, right? :lamo

You can't duck that when he got the job he had ZERO governing experience. It showed and still does.
 
Joe Scarborough & Piers Morgan represent Americans?

only the black helicopter crowd

in a month, they'll be calling barack hussein a kenyan

Michelle Obama calls Barack a Kenyan - YouTube

LOL!

why can't barack obama state unequivocally that he did not know what was going on at his irs before april?

why did the nyt report that "the obama admin knew about the irs scandal 5 months before the election?"

why did an email emit from the cia, saying: "the state dept had major reservations with much or most of the document, we revised the document with their concerns in mind"

why can't eric holder say when he recused himself from that massive ap sweep and why, despite best practices, did he fail to put his recusal in writing?

links above

stay tuned...
 
No he couldn't because people bought the rhetoric and the Obama hype continuing to do that. In today's world of 24/7 media perception is more reality than actual resume and results. People continue to buy the Obama rhetoric and ignore the Obama results just like they ignored the Obama rhetoric and bought the leftwing spin about Romney. We are paying the price today for that ignorance.

We are paying the price today for that ignorance

SO what is the price were paying? His predecessors (whom shall be unnamed) two terms had an effective zero job growth. Plus his presidency put us the worst financial crisis since the depression with the two unfunded wars.

Yet he has managed to pull us outta the nosedive with a job gain and record gains if the stock markets in a little over four years in-spite of the headwinds of boner and the teabaggers of the house.
 
SO what is the price were paying? His predecessors (whom shall be unnamed) two terms had an effective zero job growth. Plus his presidency put us the worst financial crisis since the depression with the two unfunded wars.

Yet he has managed to pull us outta the nosedive with a job gain and record gains if the stock markets in a little over four years in-spite of the headwinds of boner and the teabaggers of the house.

Interesting how Obama supporters believe that the Bush Presidential term was January 1, 2008 to January 21, 2009 and ignore the previous 7 years. When you take the 8 year average of Bush vs. the 4 plus year average of Obama, the comparison isn't flattering to Obama but then when do results matter to his supporters. I am still waiting exactly what Obama did to bring us out of recession in June 2009 since his economic policy wasn't even enacted then since the shovels for those shovel ready jobs were lost in shipment?

Amazing how little so many Obama supporters understand about the economy. If you interject 842 billion dollars into the economy don't you think that we should get better job growth and better economic growth four years later? What is it about Obama's rhetoric that creates this kind of loyalty? What economic policies of Obama generated the stock market gains you want to give him credit for? Seems you understand the private sector economy just as much as Obama
 
And what wonders he had worked, right? :lamo

You can't duck that when he got the job he had ZERO governing experience. It showed and still does.
How much governing experience did John McCain have? Sure he had many years as a legislator, but no executive experience.
 
How much governing experience did John McCain have?

someone is awfully eager to argue

LOL!

knock yourself out
 
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Interesting how Obama supporters believe that the Bush Presidential term was January 1, 2008 to January 21, 2009 and ignore the previous 7 years. When you take the 8 year average of Bush vs. the 4 plus year average of Obama, the comparison isn't flattering to Obama but then when do results matter to his supporters. I am still waiting exactly what Obama did to bring us out of recession in June 2009 since his economic policy wasn't even enacted then since the shovels for those shovel ready jobs were lost in shipment?

What do you want to compare?how about you take a look at the jobless numbers for the first four years of both?

If you interject 842 billion dollars into the economy don't you think that we should get better job growth and better economic growth four years later?

Shouda injected much more,maybe double what was injected. unemployment woulda been approaching 6% about now. :2wave:

What economic policies of Obama generated the stock market gains you want to give him credit for?

Here,s two for a start.General Motors and Chrysler.
 
did anyone read sharyl attkisson's latest bombshell?

the admin's newest defense: we're the idiots

"We're portrayed by Republicans as either being lying or idiots," said one Obama administration official who was part of the Benghazi response. "It's actually closer to us being idiots."

Officials on Benghazi: "We made mistakes, but without malice" - CBS News

the white house which released a select 100 pages of email chain to absolve hillary's state dept...

the white house which next sent jake tapper a single email from ben rhodes which was sposed to make issa look like an nbc producer editing a trayvon martin phone call...

only to see both rather pathetic efforts blow up in their faces (links above)...

now the admin has hustled out a team of "officials who were in key positions on september 11" who, speaking on "condition of anonymity so that they could be more frank in their assessments," have put forward this very reassuring explanation for all the confusion about the talking points and the requests for security ignored and the failure to send help that nite and...

it's all attributable to "incompetence..."

"rather than malice or coverup"

well, thank goodness for that

it was such a long time ago, however, what difference does it really make

The [newest] list of mea culpas by Obama administration officials involved in the Benghazi response and aftermath include: standing down the counterterrorism Foreign Emergency Support Team, failing to convene the Counterterrorism Security Group, failing to release the disputed Benghazi "talking points" when Congress asked for them, and using the word "spontaneous" while avoiding the word "terrorism."

fest, the foreign emergency support team:

The Foreign Emergency Support Team known as FEST is described as "the US Government's only interagency, on-call, short-notice team poised to respond to terrorist incidents worldwide."

Yet deployment of the counterterrorism experts on the FEST was ruled out from the start. That decision became a source of great internal dissent and the cause of puzzlement to some outsiders.

Thursday, an administration official who was part of the Benghazi response told CBS News: "I wish we'd sent it."

The official said Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's deputy, Patrick Kennedy, quickly dispensed with the idea.

However, the FEST's own mission statement describes a seasoned team of counterterrorism professionals who can respond "quickly and effectively to terrorist attacks... providing the fastest assistance possible" including "hostage negotiating expertise" and "time-sensitive information and intelligence."

In fact, FEST leader Mark Thompson says Benghazi was precisely the sort of crisis to which his team is trained to respond.

While it was the State Department that's said to have taken FEST off the table, the team is directed by the White House National Security Council.

As soon as word of the Benghazi attack reached Washington, FEST members "instinctively started packing," said an official involved in the response. "They were told they were not deploying by Patrick Kennedy's front office... In hindsight... I probably would've pushed the button."

Said one source, "I don't see a downside to sending FEST... if for no other reason than so no one could ask why we didn't."

throwing patrick kennedy under the bus is barreling down hard on hrc herself

the csg, counterterrorism security group, which was never convened:

Under presidential directive, an interagency task force called the Counterterrorism Security Group (CSG) is to be convened when emergency terrorist events are suspected. According to a public military document, it's part of a plan to "synchronize the efforts of all the government agencies that have a role to play in the Global War on Terrorism." But on Sept. 11, 2012, the Obama administration did not convene this body of terrorism expert advisers.

Last October, National Security Council (NSC) SpokesmanTommy Vietor told CBS News that the CSG wasn't needed because consultations were quickly underway at the highest levels. "From the moment [President Obama] was briefed on the Benghazi attack, the response effort was handled by the most senior national security officials in government.

However, absent the CSG's collective advice, there's evidence that some high-level decision makers were unaware of all available resources. In October, on a phone call that included then-Deputy National Security Adviser Denis McDonough (now White House Chief of Staff), Vietor initially told CBS News: "I don't know what [FEST] is... it sounds antiquated."

in-extremis force in croatia:

In an unfortunate turn of events, on Sept. 11, a special U.S. military force based in Europe, designed specifically for quick reaction to unforeseen emergencies, was off on a training mission in Croatia. By the time the so-called Commander's In-extremis Force was diverted to an airfield at Sigonella, Italy, an hour's flight from Benghazi, the attacks were over.

"They didn't get there in time to have an impact, which is unfortunate," said a Defense Department source who was involved in the Benghazi response.

Another administration source says, with the benefit of hindsight, everyone wishes US Africa Command (AFRICOM), the combatant command responsible for Libya on Sept. 11, had its own In-extremis Force.

the dream team:

A former Obama administration official says they were so confident in, and pleased with, the team of experts they pulled together to brief Congress on Benghazi, they were nicknamed the "Dream Team." The "Dream Team" consisted of: Maj. Gen. Darryl Roberson, Vice Director of Operations, Joint Staff; Matt Olson, Director of the National Counterterrorism Center; Andy McCabe, Assistant Director of Counterterrorism for the FBI; and Linda Weissgold from CIA.

But some Obama administration sources now concede that, outside the "Dream Team," their post-attack communications and spin were riddled with missteps. Yet they insist that was the result of incompetence or confusion, and that no conspiracy was in play.

the talking points:

"We thought, 'why are you guys throwing us under the bus?' ...They [CIA] made it seem like the State Department was given a warning they ignored.

As the various agencies worked to edit and approve the talking points on Sept. 14, Mr. Obama's Deputy National Security Advisor Ben Rhodes emailed that there would be a Deputies meeting the next morning to work out the issues. "That's polite code for let's not debate this on e-mail for 18 hours," said one official involved. (Ben Rhodes is the brother of CBS News President David Rhodes.)

Even today, nobody will say on the record, or even off the record to CBS News, who was at the Deputies meeting on the morning of Sept. 15, where the talking points were drastically pared down for Rice's use. The approved version called the attacks "demonstrations" that "evolved" after being "spontaneously inspired" by protest at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo. All mentions of terrorism, al Qaeda and previous warnings given by the CIA had been excised.

The Obama administration has resisted Congress' demands to turn over FBI transcripts of the survivor interviews.

the turning point:

On Sept. 20, a team of Obama administration officials with fresh information agreed to brief the House and Senate in closed sessions. There, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper revealed that Benghazi "had all the earmarks of a premeditated attack."

From the view of one Obama administration official who was present, "Something just snapped. [Senators] started yelling and screaming 'Why did Susan [Rice] lie?'"

"It was a turning point," said the Obama administration official. "It was just a stark shift from Sunday with no groundwork laid. [Senators] just snapped... Susan was done."

shoulda released the emails:

In an effort to sort out who-knew-what-when, Congress asked for the talking point drafts and e-mails last November, but the Obama administration withheld them on grounds of national security and the idea that they're deliberative materials not subject to public release. Congress continued to press and Republican senators even held up administration nominations. Finally, the administration allowed limited reviews of some of the materials but did not let members of Congress, or their staff, take documents from the room or make copies.

An Obama administration source familiar with the process now says the talking points should have been handed over much sooner. "We should have released them six months ago," said the source, adding that the various federal agencies had agreed to do so but the White House counsel's office was against it.

none dare call it terror, the 60 minutes interview, september 23, which david rhodes sat on for 2 months:

KROFT: Mr. President, this morning you went out of your way to avoid the use of the word "terrorism" in connection with the Libya attack.

OBAMA: Right.

KROFT: Do you believe that this was a terrorist attack?

OBAMA: Well, it's too early to know exactly how this came about, what group was involved, but obviously it was an attack on Americans.

Several Obama administration officials said not using the word "terrorism" early on was not part of a conspiracy, but an "abundance of caution."

wow, that's as vibrant a 3D portrait as any diego rivera mural

the perfect picture of stupidity AND coverup

limpwrist lindsey graham: "incompetence and malice are not mutually exclusive"

chafing jason chaffetz: "if not for congress, they would still lead us to believe it was a video gone awry"

cuz if you're willing to concede like a clarion you're a klutz...

what could you possibly be protecting?

no wonder ms attkisson's days with tiffany are numbered
 
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Donc;1061824608]What do you want to compare?how about you take a look at the jobless numbers for the first four years of both?

Been there done that, you aren't very good with numbers

Shouda injected much more,maybe double what was injected. unemployment woulda been approaching 6% about now. :2wave:

Better tell that to Christina Romer who disagreed with you. Obama got what he wanted. The problem is, after the stimulus was spent there was no incentive for the private sector to hire but then liberals don't understand incentive.


Here,s two for a start.General Motors and Chrysler.

Really? The taxpayers are owed over 25 billion dollars and there are still 3 million fewer workers today than when the recession began but you see that doesn't matter. Adding over 6 trillion to the debt to get back to the same employment level he inherited. That to an Obama supporter is a victory.
 
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